NYTimes: The Flaws of “Net Zero”

July 22, 2022

“Net Zero” pledges have a teensy problem. The technologies they rely on do not yet exist.

6 Responses to “NYTimes: The Flaws of “Net Zero””

  1. J4Zonian Says:

    People like the narrator need to learn that this is NOT an “environmental” buzzword. They need to stop saying that. It’s a climate denying delayalist buzzword.

    “Net zero”,
    offsets, (aka ripoffsets (Joe Romm))
    carbon capture,
    allegedly non-dirty coal,
    carbon prices,
    any generation nuclear
    talk about a hydrogen economy or any significant reliance on hydrogen or mention of “green” hydrogen (currently .03% of H production & it, like every color H, is mostly used to extract more oil & gas),
    personal lifestyle solutions,
    geoengineering (geoengimagicalism),
    unlimited other distractions.

    …are other delayalist buzzwords. Every one of them has only one purpose: to delay real climate action.
    And to profit the rich.
    Two purposes.
    And to satisfy the sadistic impulses of the lunatic right wing* by forcing climate activists to fight against all the wealthiest people, corporations, industries, & governments in the world at once.

    Amongst the purposes of every one of these…

    Call it the breakthrough boys gambit, used by bjorn mcborgerson, Schellenberger, et al, & their camp followers: call yourself some sort of environmentalist or use โ€œecoโ€ in some form, then use it to pedal (oops, TDF Fever) relentlessly right wing frames as solutions instead of what they are, problems.

    * sorry for the redundancy.

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      “I’ll come in again….”

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      And to profit the rich.

      Don’t just blame the profit-seeking of the rich. You have to include the evil people do to try to become rich.


      • J4Zonian Says:

        Yes, but
        1. I’m thinking in terms of globally rich:

        If you have just 4 thingsโ€”a roof, a bed, food in a refrigerator, clothes in a closet, you have more than 85% of the people on Earth have.
        (Pachamama Alliance Awakening the Dreamer Symposium)
        Have a car? 2? House big enough for 10? (of the <85%) You're one of the richest 7 or 8% of people on the planet.

        Most people trying to get rich are in the 85% doing a tiny fraction of the damage the phenomenally wealthy who most people you know think of as rich do.

        2. It’s unknown how infected by Wetiko disease & how affected by the addictions that go with it those trying to get rich are. They’re mostly motivated by fear, & acute awareness of how insecure life is now. It’s being made so by the [Name your preferred percent]%.

        It IS known that those who have accumulated mbillions despite the dire need in the world are infected & affected & need to be removed from the decision-makig process

        • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

          As a kid I used to see pictures of people in poor slums and villages in National Geographic, or hand-carrying water for miles. Even though we had less than our parents’ friends had, I still thought of ourselves as “rich” compared to that.

          Assuming clean, drinkable water at the turn of a tap is a fundamentally different lifestyle.


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