Nat Geo on Alan Savory, Wildlife and Soil

November 27, 2021

5 Responses to “Nat Geo on Alan Savory, Wildlife and Soil”

  1. rhymeswithgoalie Says:

    I would have liked if Sanjayan had asked Savory about how changing average heat or rainfall would impact his “holistic” model of a thriving grassland. (That is, it’s one thing to achieve this result in the existing climate regime but what happens if you turn up the stressors, like increased heat or drought.)

  2. J4Zonian Says:

    National Geographic owned by Fox News and Rupert Murdoch. It’s called the doughnut diet; if it sounds too good to be true it usually isn’t true.

  3. greenman3610 Says:

    Savory is controversial. I want to believe that NatGeo did some due diligence on him and found good things, but I have to see more.
    On the other hand, a lot of the “meat is killing the planet” stuff is not accurate either – there are people that say that’s the biggest share of the problem, which is not true – it’s real, but burning stuff remains the biggest obstacle.

    • J4Zonian Says:

      So true.

      But after an article by Goodland and Anhang (meat = 51% of global emissions) was viciously and relentlessly attacked by the meats division of the global denial industry, it became clear that (among other things) we would never be allowed to know how much any sector, industry, or corporation emits. Even if the truth is revealed, as with Covid, climate, and energy, the media is flooded with so much disinformation it’s virtually a full time job for any individual to ferret out the truth.

      Any speaker of any hint of information an industry feels threatened by (no matter how irrational the fear is) becomes the object of scorn, ridicule, smearing, disinformation, enormous political pressure, and worse, with journalists and activists who gather information globally, killed at an astounding and increasing rate. (To draw a distinction between US and other countries and industries in this is naive.) The meat industry, inextricably intertwined with multinational logging, feed production, climate denial, anti-renewable fanaticism, indigenous land rights violations, (and thus genocide and general repression) is a perfect example.

      Most privileged people are very happy to go along with anything that relieves them of even a tiny bit of the burden of guilt they rightfully carry as a result of the unraveling biosphere. Savory’s notoriously questionable practices and pronouncements, and the poor state of science on the subject, should make people run away from what is almost certainly, pardon the expression, bullshit. National Geographic has always been a purveyor of the stuff, brightsiding everything about everything long before the insane right wing got hold of the magazine (and the Royal Society-like institution behind it). To treat anything NG says on any controversial subject with anything but contempt is almost criminally naive.

      “The global production of food is responsible for a third of all planet-heating gases emitted by human activity, with the use of animals for meat causing twice the pollution of producing plant-based foods, a major new study has found.”
      https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/13/meat-greenhouses-gases-food-production-study

      That’s 20% of global emissions, but that doesn’t begin to tell the story. Because so much of the GHGs associated with meat are methane and nitrous oxides, powerful but short-lasting, their increase threatens rapid degradation of the world and our chances for avoiding utter cataclysm. However, that also means we can change things for the better very fast, if we can get governments to take meat reduction seriously and act on science rather than in the perceived interests of the oligarchy. The hard part is getting enough people aware enough to affect that change, and here we come up against the ‘Bombed’—the Battle-Over-Minutiae Distraction that is just one more delaying tactic.

      Except for that last sentence, you and many readers here know all this already. But obviously people don’t know it well enough, because we go on endlessly discussing the minutiae and never seriously discuss, (let alone act on, I’m guessing) the only important thing in the world any more; the only thing that will allow the implementation of any remotely sufficient solutions—the removal of the oligarchy from power.

      • J4Zonian Says:

        I don’t want to give the impression that I accept the Goodland & Anhang numbers uncritically. It was instead the type, volume, pervasiveness, and hyper-reactive lowballing that came from the meat / denial industry, matching perfectly the denial industry’s actions on every other subject, (what eventually turned out to be significant funding of climate denial by the Farm Bureau, eg. as well as the rail, ICEV, banking, and pseudo-environmentalist industries*) that gave away the agro-chemical & meat industry’s guilt and deep involvement.

        * Bjorn McBorgersson, Nordhaus, Shellenberger and the (US) breakthrough boys and other New Wave anti-eco fascists.


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