Figueres and Mann Review COP on PBS

November 15, 2021

14 Responses to “Figueres and Mann Review COP on PBS”

  1. jimbills Says:

    This comment is somewhere between complete nonsense and the most profound comment ever made. But – this comment doesn’t determine the fate of human lives, our civilization, and the welfare of countless generations after us.

  2. ecoquant Says:

    Yes, agree with @jimbills, these remarks regarding COP26 are some of the most overtly political, nay, “diplomatic” assessments I have heard. They are the kind of thing an employee of a failing business says to a customer, having purchased an item, considering the shabby condition of the shop, wondering if it was the right choice.

    We aren’t going to get anywhere if all we do is respect sleight of hand.

  3. J4Zonian Says:

    December 10, 2049

    At the final session of COP 54 in Svalbard, Norway, officials announced they were glad that for the first time, an amendment to the Paris agreement mentioned the word oil. Countries signed a side agreement to phase inefficient oil down to net zero by 2159. The news was greeted with celebration at Great Bear Lake Ford, one of the last two ICEV dealerships in the world, as the preliminary draft had specified 2150.

    • J4Zonian Says:

      I had seen that but forgotten it. Thanks for the reminder.

      The reality is such a despicable con job it’s hard to know how to think about it or respond. For half my life the supposed leaders of the world have responded to the most serious threat to human existence by trying to portray mere ratification of whatever the hell “the market” does as “bold’ action by them when really what they’re doing is absolutely nothing.

  4. jimbills Says:

    Biden Admin Set to Auction Off Over 80 Million Acres to Oil and Gas Drilling Companies

    “The Biden administration is preparing to sell off more than 80 million acres of the Gulf of Mexico to oil and gas drilling companies in the largest federal offshore drilling auction in U.S. history—less than a week after the UN climate change conference COP26, where nearly 200 nations promised to reduce fossil fuel emissions.”

    This on the heels of the infrastructure bill, too. Biden needed a win, so they passed that bill, but in doing so, they’ve greatly strengthened Manchin’s hand in crippling or killing the BBB bill (the only real climate legislation so far in his Presidency). In addition to Manchin voicing opposition to the EV tax credit in the bill recently, here’s the latest on that:

    Manchin has ‘a lot of concerns’ over timing of Biden climate and social spending plan

    “Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) on Tuesday signaled he’s not on board with Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer’s (D-N.Y.) plan to get President Biden’s $1.75 trillion climate and social spending package passed into law by Christmas.”

    • neilrieck Says:

      I am paralyzed by indecision: do I click “thumbs” up or “thumbs down” (because Biden appears to be a version of Trump that doesn’t tweet out messages in the middle of the night)

      • greenman3610 Says:

        deeply disagree with the “their all the same” narrative.
        20 years ago we might have elected President Al Gore because of the “they’re all the same” narrative, and a million people in the Middle East died as a result, in addition to getting the most conservative Supreme Court in a century, Citizen’s United, and a path that has taken us to the brink of Fascism.
        they are not all the same, and it does make a difference.

        • J4Zonian Says:

          They’re different because they have different functions. But those functions are all aimed at the same goal, and allowing either one to continue as is will lead to that goal, which is a ruling system strong enough, unconscious, and unfeeling enough to end humanity and the biosphere.

          The far right’s malignant narcissism, manifesting as US exceptionalism, empire, ever-harsher enforced inequality, and ecological degradation, is driving us toward fascism using capitalism, gerrymandering, voter suppression, lies about race, ecology, and the nature of life and humanity, while the not-quite-as-far-right follows along just a little behind, to preserve the dichotomy that keeps people from choosing other paths.

          When people get fed up with the far right, both halves of the party make sure the only place people have to turn is the oligarchic near far right, which by ratifying everything the far right does, serves as a ratchet on the drive toward fascism. When it takes over temporarily, it preserves the degraded place we’ve reached, with fewer protections, fewer rights, less equality, more financially stressed government with less power, so the next time the far right is in the majority it can take up degrading the world right where it left off.

          Each half of the duopoly party tells its own lies to capture and control its third of the electorate; effectively induced despair keeps the other third pinned to inaction. Most of this is unconscious; the 2 are locked in a psychological system like many families are,

          Except for the few elected progressives, the Democrats accept and aid the far right’s story about all those things, they just want to move slower, (as the Koch-fired tea parties e.g. want to move faster). They’re not the same as the criminally insane Republicans; they’re less insane and therefore more criminal, like kapos the oligarchy sets on the public to keep them in line. The Republicans are not the only enemy; the whole duopoly party has to be removed from power and the disease they manifest healed or nothing will be solved.

  5. jimbills Says:


    ‘Down’ but not ‘out’: Growth needs fuel India’s coal addiction

    ‘On the same day that COP26 delegates were finalising the global climate accord, Delhi shut its schools for a week to keep children inside (smog).’

    China has also topped their highest yearly coal production production this year.

    Scott Morrison in Australia is a b-tard, a predictable one, but here’s what he is saying after Australia refused any additional pledges:

    COP26 agreement to phase down coal not ‘a death knell’ for coal power says PM, disputing Boris Johnson

    ‘”I don’t believe it did, and for all of those who are working in that industry in Australia, they’ll continue to be working in that industry for decades to come,” he said.’

    • neilrieck Says:

      I attended a week-long energy conference at the University of Waterloo in 2012 where a representative from India pleaded for assistance from the west to build nuclear reactors (India was willing to pay $$$) so India wouldn’t need to depend upon coal. I guess that business opportunity was missed by investors over here.

      • J4Zonian Says:

        The only business opportunity was to help them build clean safe renewable energy. Building nukes is a military opportunity; a chance to build dangerous, obsolete, slow and expensive turkeys in a government only slightly more trustworthy than the US with them. (India also seems willing to inflict its nuclear waste on those countries it invades, it just doesn’t invade as many as the US.)

  6. jimbills Says:


    Deforestation in Brazil’s Amazon rises in October, despite COP26 promises

    “Deforestation in Brazil’s Amazon rainforest rose in October from a year ago, satellite data showed on Friday, undercutting vows by the government of President Jair Bolsonaro that it is curbing destruction of a crucial bulwark against climate change.”

    As Indonesia wavers on deforestation pledge, young climate activists demand action

    ‘Last week, she said on Twitter that “forcing Indonesia to [reach] zero deforestation in 2030 is clearly inappropriate and unfair,” adding that massive development under President Joko Widodo’s 5.96 trillion rupiah (US$417 million) infrastructure programme “must not stop in the name of carbon emissions or in the name of deforestation”.’

  7. jimbills Says:


    Satellites discover huge amounts of undeclared methane emissions


    All of this is to say, actions mean something. Words are just words, and too often just used for deception. The world’s leaders may have good intentions, but when push comes to shove, they choose growth over the environment, time after time.

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