“Close Encounters” Flight Control Scene with Deleted Footage

June 4, 2021

Another non-conclusive report on UFOs, or UAPs as they are now called.

Above, classic UFO in Film.

Below, report from Channel 8 in Las Vegas. where UFOs are covered as local news.

Below, former SecDef, Sec/CIA Leon Panetta weighs in.

17 Responses to ““Close Encounters” Flight Control Scene with Deleted Footage”

  1. talies Says:

    Refreshing to see glimmers of the light of day break through the giggle factor. There has been massive witness testimony evidence about UFO/UAP’s for decades.

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      Human testimony doesn’t mean squat to me. I want device-recorded data.

      People are notoriously bad at estimating size and altitude, sunset over a V of flying geese is described as “saucer-shaped object” skipping along like a stone on a water. Sky lanterns, weather balloons, night-time hot air balloons, even the planet Venus are regularly reported as UFOs. More and more people own remote-control gliders and drones, now, too.

      If somebody wants to claim that an alien species capable of such advanced technology exists within cosmological travel distance of our planet in this window of time, and they (or their scout probes) have for some reason been only in moving around on the dark side of our little planet, then they better have some damn good evidence to back it up.

  2. redskylite Says:

    It’s quite possible that some of this “phenomena” captured on film, that no human can satisfactorily explain, is indeed alien. As so far they have done us no harm and have not succeeded at communicating with us, they are and will remain a mystery and a curiosity. Maybe they have a different concept of time or even dimensions.

    We are bound by our own limited understanding of physics and the universe.

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      We have quite advanced understanding of human brains and human minds: faults of perception, malleability of memory, and the fact that often the brain interprets visual input based on pre-existing patterns it is trying to match. We have cases where glowing “ghosts” or “aliens” are caught on film that have been replicated by professional photographers (insects caught by flash, lens flare, etc.) that people still insist are evidence for what they want to believe. Penn&Teller even discovered a vile therapist* who was convincing vulnerable people that they had been abducted by aliens.

      For centuries sensations common to sleep paralysis (sense presence of intruder, feeling someone holding you down, a feeling of floating when you try to move) were interpreted as visitation by well-known supernatural entities such as incubi or succubi. Nowadays the same sensations are given a modern interpretation of alien visitation, binding and transport.

      [BTW, I’m really much less concerned about misidentification of phenomena as alien as I am of the more damaging effects of sincere trial witness testimony and juror interpretation putting innocent people in prison (or on Death Row).]
      ________
      *Penn & Teller: Bullshit S1, E3 “Alien Abductions”

      • redskylite Says:

        So if 10,000 people witness this unexplained phenomena – can we not put it down to sleep paralysis and as it was in 1954, not a drone either.

        “The day UFOs stopped play;

        Ten-thousand fans were watching in the concrete bowl of the Stadio Artemi Franchi. But just after half-time the stadium fell eerily silent – then a roar went up from the crowd. The spectators were no longer watching the match, but were looking up at the sky, fingers pointing. The players stopped playing, the ball rolled to a stand-still. ”

        https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29342407

        • redskylite Says:

          “As so far they have done us no harm” or have they.?
          =====================================================
          (October 21st 1978)

          “That strange aircraft is hovering on top of me again (open microphone for two seconds). It is hovering and it’s not an aircraft.’

          The last transmission from Frederick Valentich was at 1912hrs and an alert was immediately declared. When at 1933hrs it was evident that the Cessna 182 (Delta Sierra Juliet) had not arrived at King Island a full scale Search and rescue operation was launched. After five days of searching no sign of the pilot or aircraft was found despite the fact that the Cessna was equipped with a radio survival beacon. ”

          http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/unex12.htm

          November 23, 1953

          This Air Force Jet Was Scrambled to Intercept a UFO—Then Disappeared

          Near the U.S.-Canadian border, U.S. Air Defense Command noticed a blip on the radar where it shouldn’t have been: an unidentified object in restricted air space over Lake Superior, not far from Soo Locks, the Great Lakes’ most vital commercial gateway. An F-89C Scorpion jet, from Truax Air Force Base in Madison, Wisconsin, took off from nearby Kinross AFB to investigate, with two crew members on board. First Lieutenant Felix Moncla—who had clocked 811 flying hours, including 121 in a similar aircraft—took the pilot’s seat, while Second Lieutenant Robert Wilson was observing radar.

          https://www.history.com/news/ufo-fighter-jet-disappears-over-lake-superior-kinross-incident

          • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

            He agrees that the elements said to have been observed in the “angel hair” don’t seem to tally with the spider theory.

            The “angel hair” was put into contaminated containers at hand, not pristine lab sample containers, and was sticky enough to pull something off the interior of the jar. The elements are trivially explained by household products common in that time and place (like borax or lime). The scientist probably had the 1950s version of a mass spectrometer.

            As for actual scientific data – we haven’t developed the technology to track interstellar craft journeying through wormholes yet, and alien lifespans and behaviour may not match that of humans. Look at the size of the known universe and number of planets. At least keep an open mind.

            I have absolutely no trouble accepting that life forms coordinated and intelligent enough to develop extremely advanced technology exist. Plugging even conservative numbers into the Drake equation should convince all but the neurotically averse.

            The Drake equation, however, would have to add more restrictive probabilities for alien contact:
            – the fraction of civilizations that survive to make interstellar travel viable
            – the fraction of interstellar travelers that overlap in time with us
            – the fraction of interstellar travelers that overlap in accessible space with us

            The very numbers that make it easy to assume other life anywhere in the universe also remind us how very big yet very sparsely we are spread out. Our single galaxy is ~105,000 light years across and contains over 100 billion stars. As a civilization, we are only detectable within a measly 100 ly radius, so the only plausible reason to visit here would be because there was something attractive about this star or planet out of the millions of possible candidates in this galaxy alone. Maybe there are better odds where stars are closer together nearer the core of our galaxy, but we’re really in the boondocks, neighbor-wise.

            Imagine, if you would, a fireworks display, but instead of the fire-blossoms overlapping a single town harbor or river, they were shot up potentially thousands of miles and years apart. That’s what we should expect coming out of goldilocks zones across the 13 billion years across hundreds of billions of galaxies containing hundreds of billions of stars.

        • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

          “It all lasted a couple of minutes. I would like to describe them as being like Cuban Cigars.”

          “It is a fact that at the same time the UFOs were seen over Florence there was a strange, sticky substance falling from above. In English we call this ‘angel hair’,” says Pinotti.

          “I remember, in broad daylight, seeing the roofs of the houses in Florence covered in this white substance for one hour and, like snow, it just evaporated.

          The sticky angel hair, collected in random containers, contained the same material as household cleaners.

          Did you look at the video included in the article?

          Look up “ballooning spiders”, especially the massive events in Australia. People have cell phone videos of “cigar-like” clumps glistening in the sky. There are “snowfall” pictures of fields and rooftops covered in gossamer. They even call it angel hair.

          I wonder if “ten-thousand fans were watching in the concrete bowl of the Stadio Artemi Franchi” creates any kind of body heat plume coming up from the stadium….

          • redskylite Says:

            “Did you look at the video included in the article?”

            Yes I did and wasn’t convinced by the explanation, agree it is a possibility but not definate proof.

            =====================
            “Sixty years on, the chances of determining the cause of the incident are slim. “I wouldn’t trust any reports of an old and strange event like this unless I’d seen the data,” says science writer Philip Ball. He agrees that the elements said to have been observed in the “angel hair” don’t seem to tally with the spider theory.

            “Magnesium and calcium are fairly common elements in living bodies, boron and silicon much less so – but if these were the main elements that the white fluff contained, it doesn’t sound to me as though they’d come from spiders,” he says. ”
            ====================

            One thing I find of interest is all the pilot reports and incidents, at least three planes have disappeared in UFO related missions. Reports are from a credible source and their sightings and observations are difficult to explain. Difficult to believe the Russians and Chinese have advanced technology that
            exceeds that of the U.S.A and west.

            As for actual scientific data – we haven’t developed the technology to track interstellar craft journeying through wormholes yet, and alien lifespans and behaviour may not match that of humans. Look at the size of the known universe and number of planets. At least keep an open mind.
            =============================
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reported_UFO_sightings

        • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

          BTW, that wussy stadium account is nothing compared to the Miracle of Fatima, where a crowd saw the sun moving in the sky. Anybody who points out that

          (1) it’s hard to tell if something is moving around in the sky (without reference objects)

          (2) staring at the sun, besides being a bad idea, will cause your vision to shift and blur erratically because it is not something human eyes can handle

          is a godless skeptic or a minion of Satan or worse, a Protestant!

    • Gingerbaker Says:

      “It’s quite possible that some of this “phenomena” captured on film, that no human can satisfactorily explain, is indeed alien. ”

      Quite possible? Good grief. There is zero evidence of alien life, and we have been looking.

  3. neilrieck Says:

    This nonsense has been going on my whole life (ever since the Pentagon invited Carl Sagan to review “documented evidence” associated with the Air Force’s “Project Blue Book”). Sagan said that there are a lot of things which cannot be identified but that does not mean they are real. He also said that people can fool themselves into believing something is following them in car when it turns out to be the planet Venus low in the sky. But this latest round has me mystified because Phil Mason, a scientist I support via Patreon) has debunked these videos for the past 5-years. Here is his latest offerings:

    1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCH7BWGpl5s
    2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th4VlqQyVr4

    Now for my own theory: The Defense budget now sits at the obscene level of 750 billion (3/4 trillion) dollars. If the American public can be convinced UFOs are be developed in China or Russia then no one would dare call for a reduction.

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      Ah, Thunderf00t. I believe the last time his work appeared on this blog was to address the “Solar Roadway” hype.

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      Back in the days of film cameras the most expensive specialty “spy film” was sensitive enough that it could pick up crisp details with a quick, low-light exposure. (It was so sensitive that you needed to keep it away from X-ray machines.)

      I posited a type of film that was at the opposite end, producing crude, grainy images at best. This film would be sold only at tourist gift shops in places like Loch Ness, Area 51, or anywhere that claimed Bigfoot sightings. That was my only explanation for why so much evidence for some phenomena was so bad.

      • jimbills Says:

        I don’t know ‘spy film’, but the highest ISO commercial film was a very grainy b&w 3200. That was the very best available to the normal consumer for at least a decade. 3200 can capture a high school football game at night or a person a foot or two away from a candle, but not much more than that. Today’s digital cameras can easily capture 6400 with far less noise and in color, and several can go much higher than that. I have a hard time accepting, though, that if better tech was available in the film era, a company like Kodak wouldn’t want to make money off of it.

        Technically, the images of Loch Ness and so on are bad because they are cropped in so far. They are tiny parts of the original full image. None of them were photographed with a steady hand and a decent telephoto lens.

        That is a funny comment, though. They should have sold that film as a gift store gimmick.

        (I don’t care much one way or another on the topic of aliens. It’s interesting to me, but without solid evidence not more than that, and the subject matter is full of shoddy sources and conspiracy. The guy on Ancient Aliens with the wild hair comes to mind.)

  4. redskylite Says:

    “China military uses AI to track rapidly increasing UFOs

    China’s only officially confirmed UFO sighting occurred over a military airbase in Cangzhou, Hebei province, on October 19, 1998. According to a report in Hebei Daily – official newspaper of the province which neighbours Beijing – two military jets were ordered to intercept a low-flying object that appeared suddenly above the airbase.”

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3136078/china-military-uses-ai-track-rapidly-increasing-ufos


Leave a Reply to neilrieck Cancel reply

Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: