Climate Denial Crock of the Week

9 Responses to “New NASA Video: Sea Ice, Arctic Warming, and Fires”

1. Anthony William O'brien Says:

   
   September 26, 2020 at 10:26 pm

   I really thought we would have had a zero minimum before now. After 2007 and 2012 I thought Maslowski had it right. On the other hand the melting of Greenland is faster than I expected.

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   • greenman3610 Says:

     
     September 27, 2020 at 6:33 pm

     2030-2040 time frame has been most often quoted in my readings.

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   • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

     
     September 29, 2020 at 4:02 am

     Remember that the metric is “area with at least 15% sea ice”.

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2. indy222 Says:

   
   September 26, 2020 at 11:21 pm

   The exponential losses reasonably fit ending with the 2012 data, are now best fit with a linear loss rate, so maybe by 2030 we’ll be ice-free.

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   • greenman3610 Says:

     
     September 27, 2020 at 6:34 pm

     all we really need is a “perfect storm” summer, and we could get there any year going forward.
     barring that, 2030 and beyond looks likely.

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3. rhymeswithgoalie Says:

   
   September 27, 2020 at 4:12 am

   Great vid to share with climate science newbies.

   Just posted it to the Neurologica blog “Climate Change and Wild Fires” article. There’s a commenter there who blames the California fires on poor forest management practices.

   A treasured quote: “That the fire situation is not a worldwide phenomena and in fact seems counter to the trends the scientists have thus far identified, makes the global warming hypothesis seem unlikely.”

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   • greenman3610 Says:

     
     September 27, 2020 at 6:31 pm

     upcoming vid will address the “forest management” idea.
     It is a factor – Smokey the Bear was the Timber industry’s idea of a forester, and we would have been better served to follow the indigenous example, which I posted on recently.
     https://climatecrocks.com/2020/09/16/to-mitigate-fire-look-to-indigenous-knowledge/

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     • jimbills Says:

       
       September 27, 2020 at 7:45 pm

       I saw this recently. I’m sure you know what it covers, but it’s a good primer, and goes over forest management:
       https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-climate-change-is-affecting-wildfires-around-the-world

       Also, it explains why the total area burned globally per year has gone down consistently the last two decades. Interesting stuff – I wasn’t aware of that.

       I’m sure you saw this, too, but it’s recent news:

       Global warming driving California wildfire trends – study
       https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54278988

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     • jimbills Says:

       
       September 27, 2020 at 7:46 pm

       And, for a laugh, there’s this:
       

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