PanDumbic: Corona Response Mirrors Climate Change Denial

March 12, 2020

The parallels between Republican response to Covid19 vs Climate Change are striking, and only growing more so.

The virus is – in effect, Climate Change response in a test-tube.

Above, the Daily Show has a take. Below, key indicators.

Daily Beast:

Fox News host Sean Hannity took to his radio show Wednesday to once again downplay concerns over the coronavirus outbreak, this time citing a Twitter crank to credulously claim that it might “be true” that the “deep state” is using the pandemic to hurt the economy and push “mandated medicines.”

Hannity, who also serves as an informal adviser to President Donald Trump and is sometimes referred to as the White House chief of staff, first pointed to a far-right blog to insist that the American public is approving of the president’s response to the coronavirus.

“There’s an MIT guy I noticed on Twitter, and you know he’s saying pretty much the same thing he does research nearly every single day on immune systems he said quote ‘coronavirus fear-mongering by the deep state will go down in history as one of the biggest frauds to manipulate economies, suppress dissent, and push mandated medicines,’” Hannity said, adding, “May be true.”

The person whom the pro-Trump host cited, Shiva Ayyadurai, is a right-wing provocateur who has promoted the far-right conspiracy theory QAnon. He also ran for the Senate in 2018 against Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and repeatedly called her a “Fake Indian,” “fascist,” and “scumbag” during his disastrous campaign.

Media Matters:

SEAN HANNITY: Gateway Pundit points out that as of yesterday that the President’s approval rating is fine and he’s getting pretty good grades on everything else. There’s an MIT guy I noticed on Twitter, and you know he’s saying pretty much the same thing he does research nearly every single day on immune systems he said quote “coronavirus fear-mongering by the Deep State will go down in history as one of the biggest frauds to manipulate economies, suppress dissent, and push mandated medicines.” May be true. 

Media Matters again:

RUSH LIMBAUGH (HOST): But I’m telling you, folks, I have — there’s so many red flags about things happening out there. This coronavirus, they’re just — all of this panic is just not warranted. This, I’m telling you, when I tell you — when I’ve told you that this virus is the common cold. When I said that, it was based on the number of cases. It’s also based on the kind of virus this is. Why do you think this is “COVID-19”? This is the 19th coronavirus. They’re not uncommon. Coronaviruses are respiratory cold and flu viruses. There is nothing about this, except where it came from, and the itinerant media panic that — you can’t blame people reacting the way they’re reacting, if they pay any, even scant attention to the media.

I’ll tell you what’s really more scary than anything, is how the American people — some Americans, I don’t know how many it is, seem to be okay with being told they can’t do this, and they can’t go there and you’ve got to stay here, and we’re gonna quarantine you there, and we’re gonna wrap you up over there, we’re gonna put you in this cocoon here, and you can’t leave and you — “Okay, okay, fine with me!” No, not okay.

I mean, it’s just, this is just — too much of this, to me, appears to be made-to-order for objectives that have long been held by the American left, the Democrat Party, the media, what have you.

21 Responses to “PanDumbic: Corona Response Mirrors Climate Change Denial”

  1. jimbills Says:

    Today I read that the Trump administration heard that 70% of new cases were coming from Europe yesterday, and that was the reason for the travel ban. Well, the majority of those were from Italy, and they already have their own travel ban, as well as much more rigorous measures. The virus is already here and spreading. The travel ban might look like an effective measure, and it will prevent some transmission, but it’s a piss poor response.

    And that was the only really tangible means of slowing the spread in his speech. Trump effectively doomed thousands by not suggesting methods local governments can use and by not employing more effective federal actions.

    It wasn’t mentioned much in the press, but Dr. Fauci was giving a report to Congress yesterday when the meeting was suddenly cancelled, and Fauci and other attendees had to go to the White House for an emergency meeting. The only ’emergency’ there was trying to control the message.

    We’re going to turn into Italy very rapidly if more effective measures aren’t enacted proactively, but Trump won’t do it. He’s too worried about the economy and what would happen to his approval numbers:
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fed-trump-idUSKBN20Z02O

    The response itself is exactly like response to climate change. Hard action now will have the most effect. Minor actions will have little effect. Just like with climate change, we’re only doing small actions.

    Another country, Ukraine, just banned all public events and closed all their schools, despite having just one confirmed case:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/katyagorchinskaya/2020/03/11/ukraine-closes-schools-bans-public-events-over-coronavirus/

    I’m curious to see how they will fare vs. the U.S. when this is said and done.

    • Gingerbaker Says:

      Did Italy have a piss poor response? Did Germany? I am not sure. But Germany’s chancellor said yesterday she believes 70% of her population is exposed or infected.

      I have a feeling this thing is going to happen no matter what. It’s a nightmare scenario as far as transmission. And 3% mortality is no effing joke either.

      • jimbills Says:

        The most effective action to take is to shut down mass transmission vectors as soon as possible. Ban mass gatherings, close schools, limit travel, etc. Do these things BEFORE there are high rates of infection. Italy is doing it right now, but it took them a while. We’re doing the same thing here – waiting until it gets really bad, then we’ll shut them down, anyway.

        Why that should happen should be obvious, but for an explanation, read the link rhymes posted:
        View at Medium.com

      • jimbills Says:

        So, for us, Trump COULD have done these things, and didn’t. He COULD have emphasized that local governments and private organizations limit gatherings to only those necessary – he didn’t. He COULD have suggested that Americans limit their travel to only what’s necessary – he didn’t. He COULD have declared a national emergency, and he didn’t. That would have enacted measures to free up funds for state and local governments.

        Instead, he did one thing – a partial travel ban to an area that either already banned travel or doesn’t have much higher infection rates than we already have. Then, he announced all the tax relief measures he hopes to put in place – which won’t do a thing to stop the virus.

        Piss poor. As a result, the virus will spread more rapidly here than it would have done otherwise. And in the end, we’ll get those measures at some point, anyway.

        For countries that do have the right idea, look to Ukraine (who are doing it in advance of mass infection) and Norway (who are doing it at about the same stage of infection as the U.S.):
        https://www.lifeinnorway.net/norway-is-closed-coronavirus/

      • redskylite Says:

        The 3.5% average death rate doesn’t tell the whole story. The risk gets worse the older you are and also depends on health. At 80+ years old the death rate appears to be 15%-20% (in China higher), and at 70-80 years the risk iis around 8% plus.

        So if you are young and fit the risk is much lower than 3.5%.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/why-older-and-chronically-ill-americans-are-at-greater-risk-from-coronavirus/2020/03/10/d7e4cc04-622e-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html

    • al mar Says:

      Here’s the thing about Trump’s European travel ban: It excludes the United Kingdom & Ireland. Why? Trump has golf courses in Scotland & Ireland.

  2. dumboldguy Says:

    Trump, Hannity, Limbaugh, and Copeland—-we are in a serious PanDUMBic indeed!

    Unlike climate change, where major SHTF time is likely still a few years away, the CV pandemic is here RIGHT NOW!—the Repugnants are going to have only a few more days before their appalling DUMBness is apparent to all. Then maybe we can say—“Uh, guys? The scientists who warned about coronavirus have fellow scientists who have been warning about climate change for years. Maybe it’s time to listen to ALL scientists rather than the DUMB.”

  3. Bryson Brown Says:

    Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.

    • Gingerbaker Says:

      Spot on.

      Should add do some useless 12th hour restrictions and try to bribe the public into higher ratings. Oh yeah, and say that if you don’t have health insurance you have “big problems”.

  4. Sir Charles Says:

    Air pollution makes people more vulnerable to respiratory infections; climate change brings people in closer contact with animals that can spread disease.

    => Q&A: A Harvard Expert on Environment and Health Discusses Possible Ties Between COVID and Climate

  5. doldrom Says:

    The WuFlu is just like any other flu, except that it’s more than twice as contagious, is spreading through a completely naïve population (susceptible), requires 80× as much hospital care, and so far has 3400/100,000 CFR (compared to 10-1200/100,000 for seasonal flu).
    Maybe we should just let it spread since it will anyways. Then we can see how much healthcare you get when you’ve had an accident and there are 1 million people requiring an Intensive Care Unit all at the same time and there’s no antibiotics anymore.
    Trusting math is just playing to Chinese strengths. Besides, exponents were invented by ancient Iranians and other denizens of Iraq who maintained irrigation systems as proto-communist public property and had never even heard of good ‘ole private property capitalism.

    • Gingerbaker Says:

      Are you calling Covid-19 the “WuFlu” and saying it is just another flu?!?

      • dumboldguy Says:

        Try really reading the comment before you ask dumb questions, GB.

        • Gingerbaker Says:

          I’m still baffled. Covid is not influenza.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            No, but they are both viruses—–you seem to have missed doldrom’s point. I hope you do not soon become “baffled” by such things as doorknobs and toilet handles—if you do, life will become difficult.


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