GM Relaunches Hummer as EV

February 3, 2020

And chose the superbowl to roll it out.

Longer discussion of the new wave of EVs – below.

15 Responses to “GM Relaunches Hummer as EV”

  1. dumboldguy Says:

    What unadulterated horsepucky! A freaking TRUCK that does 0-60 in 3 seconds? Just so some folks can imagine they have bigger penises and more hair on their chests?

    For my part, until we stop burning COAL to generate the electricity to charge the batteries this is all greenwashing and denial.

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      For my part, until we stop burning COAL to generate the electricity to charge the batteries this is all greenwashing and denial.

      There’s value in making the transition to EVs as soon as possible, and not waiting until the grid is pristine. As it is, anyone who tanks up with gasoline refined in the Houston area is driving a coal- powered vehicle.

      If it makes you feel better, I pay an extra wind-power fee to Austin Energy to charge my Leaf.

  2. jimbills Says:

    Photos show it to look like more of the classic pickup truck design than the old gas guzzling Hummers. Very few details on specs yet. My first reaction is that it’s still a symbol of excess. But who knows – maybe that aspect will make it popular.

    Potentially very important and concerning article today:
    Climate Models Are Running Red Hot, and Scientists Don’t Know Why
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-03/climate-models-are-running-red-hot-and-scientists-don-t-know-why?utm_source=url_link

  3. KeenOn350 Says:

    Same old greenwash brainwash ( breenwash?) – May be electric – but hardly “organic”.

    Huge material consumption for a status symbol for the wealthy to drive the kids to school – when they should be walking or cycling or busing anyways.

    When will we ever learn to live within the means of our planet, not the means of our money?

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      Color TVs and home computers started out at luxury items until the respective industries started adapting and scaling for lower costs. In the 1990s one tech manager I know would say that “cell phones were God’s sign that you have too much money”, but I have no doubt that each her kids had them by the end of the Noughties.

      No tailpipe, no muffler, no catalytic converter, no air filter, no oil filter, no oil changes, no gas tank, no grill, and no idling at stop lights. When I replace my Leaf, someone will be able to pick it up at auction for much lower cost than the newfangled EVs shown in the video.

  4. Gingerbaker Says:

    I applaud all electrification of the transportation sector.

    And this Hummer may make inroads in changing the minds of the exact demographic most against renewable energy.

  5. jimbills Says:

    On the 2020 round-up, here’s the list:

    01: Audi e-Tron Sportback
    02: Tesla Model Y
    03: Ford Mustang Mach E
    04: Rivian R1T
    05: BMW iX3
    06: Polestar 2
    07: Porsche Taycan
    08: Volkswagen ID 3
    09: Mini Cooper SE
    10: Peugeot e-208
    +Bonus: Mercedes-Benz EQA

    The least expensive is the Mini Cooper at $29K, but it just has a top range of 146 miles. The only other non-luxury vehicle in that list is the Volkswagen, at about $40K in the US:
    https://electrek.co/2019/11/29/vw-ceo-says-id-crozz-electric-crossover-will-sell-for-around-40000/

    These are all still for the wealthier target markets. More choice will translate to more sales, but it’s not truly a mass market option yet.

    • Gingerbaker Says:

      Depends where you live. Some people may get $12,000 in rebates for that $29,000 Mini-E. That’s an amazing deal.

      • jimbills Says:

        “Depends where you live.”

        That would apply to people living in an urban area in Colorado who have access to a home charger and don’t need much cargo and passenger space.

        Car and Driver says the range is 110 miles, and that the base model is a little over $30K before tax and title:
        https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a30689865/2020-mini-cooper-se-drive/

        And then, only about 200K of the things would get that full EV credit.

        For EVs to really compete in the bigger picture, they’re going to have to at least equal (and preferably better) the prices for ICE vehicles without the tax credits and a complicated formula for how much would be saved in gas.

        But I’ll grant that this car and the Leaf are close.

  6. rabiddoomsayer Says:

    Are we at peak car production?

    • dumboldguy Says:

      Great clip—John Cadogan is a man after my own heart re: wearing comfortable clothes and not shaving but every few days. Gave some good info and has a proper “attitude” as well, even though his OZ-speak was a bit hard to understand at times.

      I wouldn’t worry about us reaching “peak cars” anytime soon—-just as we are only slowly phasing out coal use, we will not phase out ICE or cars in general anytime soon.

      • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

        There was a major transition when the Japanese focused on making higher quality cars and scared the US auto makers into making cars that would last longer than the “planned obsolescence” models they had lived off of for decades: People could start buying reasonably good quality used cars. It was a big deal when some of the car makers had to add another digit to the mileage readout.

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      As he mentioned, one of my great hopes for electric cars, motorcycles and tricycle cabs is in smog-prone cities, like Mumbai, Bogotá or Mexico city.

      Also, I’d like to see the math on how significant an inner-city temperature effect there might be when reducing the number of constantly running combustion engines that give off so much waste heat.


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