Worst Sequel Ever? “Iraq 2: The Reckoning”

January 3, 2020

We’ve got a planet to save and these idiots want to start a diversionary war.

Only positive note today is that even Trump supporters are sharply divided on this one.

23 Responses to “Worst Sequel Ever? “Iraq 2: The Reckoning””

  1. dumboldguy Says:

    Yep, wars are a great “diversion” from what really matters—-saving our planet, our country, the rule of law, etc. Maybe the crazy Iranians will do something big enough that Turtle-Face Mitch will be able to put the orange Turd’s trial on the back burner until after the election (which the Repugnants are busily working to steal as they did in 2016—is it a great country or what?)

  2. doldrom Says:

    Tulsi Gabbard

  3. rhymeswithgoalie Says:

    Iran is not only four times the size of Iraq, it has proxy groups (Hezbollah and variants) in countries throughout the Middle East. The US military is now the equivalent of the once-feared redcoats, where millions of dollars of equipment and ships can be taken out by cheap drones and small speedboats packed with explosives.

    I wish there were a hell for people like Kilmeade to rot in.

  4. Gingerbaker Says:

    Surgical drone strike is not boots on the ground. You would prefer boots on the ground?

    Let’s recap for a second.

    Iran is the largest source of terrorism in the world. It is their official modus operandi. They have literally taken over countries, like Lebanon for example, with a slew of oil-funded theocratic terrorist proxy armies, and have carried out terror campaigns and assassinations on both sides of the Atlantic. This is not a normal national government to be treated as any other – it is a nonstop terror operation. These three officers, and the slew of terrorist proxies they use (most recently in Syria where they slaughtered half a million people) are all on the terror listing.

    Iran is a theocracy run now, for more than half a century, by radical anti Western Islamist fundamentalists, who have publicly vowed on multiple occasions, to use their soon-to-be-acquired nuclear weapons to obliterate the United States and Israel. They will soon have, in a matter of years, not only nuclear weapons but intercontinental ballistic systems and drones to deliver them.

    They are the most dangerous regime on the planet. Possibly in history. And nobody wants them around. Notice, if you will, the relatively tepid response by the world to this action. Most of the world has been celebrating.

    Anyone who has paid the least bit of attention to Iran over the past decades wants this regime gone. And the sooner they are gone, the better. God forbid we put our heads in the sand and dither away the days until the get their H-bombs. That will be Armageddon, and we can and must avoid that.

    There is no bloodless way out of this.

    • jfon Says:

      ‘They are the most dangerous regime on the planet. Possibly in history.’
      Overexaggerate much ?

      • Gingerbaker Says:

        “Overexaggerate much ?”

        I exaggerate all the time. But the modifier “possibly” was clearly in print.

        Hopefully, we will never know just how dangerous Iran can be. Hopefully, this will not play out like a bad Schwarzenegger film.

        But what we have in Iran are religious nut jobs running the show who want to use nuclear weapons against their enemies to establish a new Caliphate. And they are this close to having them.

        And no, that is not an exaggeration.

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      Surgical drone strike is not boots on the ground. You would prefer boots on the ground?

      I can’t figure to whom you’re replying but we’re sending more troops there now.

      Why the fμck are we still in Iraq, anyway, much less having 16,000 people in the Green Zone?

      • Gingerbaker Says:

        “Why the fμck are we still in Iraq, anyway, much less having 16,000 people in the Green Zone?”

        There was never any justification for the US to be in Iraq at all. But just because Iraq and Iran are spelled almost the same, they are not equivalent. At all.

    • J4Zonian Says:

      Let’s recap for a second.

      The US is the largest source of terrorism in the world. It is their official modus operandi. They have literally taken over countries, like Chile, Iraq, the US, Iran, the Philippines, Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador, and scores of others, with a slew of oil-funded theocratic terrorist proxy armies, and have carried out terror campaigns and assassinations on both sides of the Atlantic. This is not a normal national government to be treated as any other – it is a nonstop terror operation. Every president and Congressional leadership and Supreme Court for the last 130 years and the slew of terrorist proxies they use (most recently in Syria where they slaughtered half a million people) are all guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity and the Earth.
      https://sites.evergreen.edu/zoltan/interventions/

      The US is a theocracy run now, for more than half a century, by radical Christian capitalist fundamentalists, who have publicly threatened on multiple occasions, to use their nuclear weapons to obliterate various enemies. They have spent trillions of dollars that could have been used to help humanity and the biosphere they’ve mortally damaged to develop ever-more powerful weapons and methods of manipulation.

      They are the most dangerous regime on the planet and in history. And nobody except other repressive regimes want them around.

      Anyone who has paid the least bit of attention to the US’s military, corporate, and climate actions over the past decades wants this regime gone. And the sooner they are gone, the better. We have already put our heads in the sand and dithered away the decades while they guaranteed hundreds of millions of human deaths and millions of extinctions from ecological collapse. We are rapidly approaching Armageddon, and we can and must avoid that.

      There is no bloodless way out of this.

      • Gingerbaker Says:

        Right. The sins of America excuse the sins of Iran.

        That’s post-modern bullshit.

        • J4Zonian Says:

          Do you find it usually helps a conversation to leap to completely unwarranted, combative conclusions?

          No one is excusing anyone. I oppose repressive religious fundamentalism of every species, and spend my life confronting unconsciousness in every form, especially the murderous. Iran is simply far, far less powerful than the US, and thus less able to do evil, whatever their relative compulsion to cause death and destruction. And I also understand that much of what ails Iran comes from the inexcusable coup the US committed against the country. But the US can’t do much to stop Iran’s evil except to cause less of its own, so at least “we” have some credibility criticizing them. (And an apology for the 1953 invasion would be OK too.) it’s like abuse, the effects of which last until treated.)

          If the US engages in another war with Iran—which seems unlikely to me despite the history and the aggressive bloviating on both sides—the US will lose as badly as it’s lost every war it’s fought—and even won—since 1945. (Except Grenada—the Special Olympics for the US military).

          • Gingerbaker Says:

            Your mocking reply to my justification for this action was to substitute the US for Iran. To equate the foreign policy of the US with the terrorism of butchers.

            As an excuse.

      • gmrmt Says:

        Awww. You beat me to it.

        • Gingerbaker Says:

          Thanks! 🙂

          This sentiment of J4zonian is common.

          Coming as it does fresh on the heels of 560,000 Syrians being slaughtered with the help of Soleimani’s brigades – for no other reason but because Syria’s Assad asked for their help – is so f***ed up I don’t know where to start.

      • J4Zonian Says:

        “In survey after international survey, the United States is perennially voted the world’s greatest threat to peace in most of the world’s nations.”

        https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/01/06/blood-whose-hands?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=AO&utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter&utm_content=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Email

  5. Brent Jensen-Schmidt Says:

    Disgust, horror…….Oh Shit!
    Geraldo is promoted to real person.

  6. redskylite Says:

    The Top Iranian general was “terminated” with a humble drone. Mystery “squadrons” of drones are flying the night skies in rural Colorado and Nebraska, nobody knows who are “piloting” them. How much damage can be done by a drone.

    What happens if a secret enemy cell gets hold of them, could world war three be started by one ?

    =======================

    On a desolate dirt road just north of Limon, the sky is lit by stars and a waxing crescent moon. Then, a small set of red-and-white lights blink rapidly, punctuating the rural Colorado landscape. The aerial object travels briskly across the sky at several hundred feet above the fields and wind turbines. Minutes later, another one creeps onto the horizon. And then another one.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2020/01/03/drones-mystery-lincoln-county-colorado/

    • redskylite Says:

      And who profits from the ventre ?

      Brent crude jumped 3.5 per cent to more than $68 a barrel, putting the international oil benchmark on track for its biggest gain in a month.

      https://www.ft.com/content/5f021b2a-2dd1-11ea-a126-99756bd8f45e

    • redskylite Says:

      News analysis: Did the drone strike on an Iranian general set a dangerous global precedent?

      https://www.deseret.com/indepth/2020/1/3/21048613/qassem-soleimani-trump-iran-drone-strike

      • Gingerbaker Says:

        Right. Why Virginia, he’s just “a general”!

        I’ve seen him described as “a foreign dignitary”.

        And as a “”Revered military leader” .

        And as “austere religious scholar”.

        Want to know who this guy was? Here is his/Iran’s record of achievement, from 1979 to 2016. He started his career in 1979. Compiled by the Saudi embassy:

        https://www.saudiembassy.net/press-release/irans-record-supporting-terrorism-and-extremism

      • J4Zonian Says:

        It’s disturbing that there’s any doubt here that this murder is inexcusable, that even relatively sane people who are aware enough of climate lies to understand how manufactured confusion and consent work, have fallen for the projectile rage and hatred being stirred up and aimed by the lunatic right wing.

        Suleimani killing the latest in a long, grim line of US assassination efforts
        There has been no shortage of US attempts to remove foreign adversaries through highly dubious legal or ethical means
        www[DOT]theguardian[DOT]com/us-news/2020/jan/04/us-political-assassinations-history-iran-suleimani?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVUy0yMDAxMDQ%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUS&CMP=GTUS_email

        We need to stop allowing ourselves to be so pitifully easy to distract, so we can get on with the work of removing the right from power, and concentrating on fixing the climate crisis.

        • Gingerbaker Says:

          “It’s disturbing that there’s any doubt here that this murder is inexcusable,… ”

          Inexcusable ?

          This is what happens to you when you are tops on the international terrorism list.

          This is what *should* happen to you when you are tops on the international terrorism list.

          This is how you fight terrorists. You kill them.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      “How much damage can be done by a drone? What happens if a secret enemy cell gets hold of them, could world war three be started by one?”

      Drones are already a huge unrecognized menace, and forget about “secret” enemy cells, the Chinese and anyone else who wants them can buy them from Inrel. I was shocked by how advanced the drone swarm technology had gotten—-I don’t remember coverage of this when it occurred at the Olympics—was it hushed up? Check out the video—-awesome and scary!

      Imagine a bunch or drones with packets of plastic explosive or containers of nerve gas being deployed against the White House or Capitol building. Could be sequenced in such a way as to cut the building in half.


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