Pelosi to Climate Conference: “We are Still In”

December 4, 2019

Reuters:

MADRID (Reuters) – U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi took her duel with Donald Trump to a climate summit on Monday, pledging that Congress would urgently tackle global warming despite the president’s opposition to an international pact.

“By coming here we want to say to everyone we are still in, the United States is still in,” Pelosi told reporters on the first day of the two-week United Nations climate talks in Spain. 

Many governments and environmental groups are aghast at Trump’s move last month to begin formal proceedings to yank the United States, one of the world’s biggest polluters, from the 2015 Paris Agreement to avert catastrophic temperature rises.

Trump says complying with the accord would hurt the U.S. economy, restricting domestic producers while other big polluters such as China increase emissions. 

But Pelosi, who is also leading the Democrats’ push to impeach the Republican president, sought to reassure allies. 

“Our delegation is here to send a message that Congress’s commitment to take action on the climate crisis is iron clad,” she said, flanked by Democratic Congressional representatives.

Pelosi said her decision to visit Madrid during impeachment proceedings showed Democrats were committed to tackling the “existential threat to humanity” from the climate crisis. 

“We aren’t here to talk about impeachment of the president of the United States,” Pelosi said in response to a question. 

“We’re here to talk positively about our agenda to save the planet for future generations.” 

The United States rallied support for the Paris Agreement under the administration of former U.S. President Barack Obama. Democrats want to reassure the rest of the world they will once again throw their country’s weight behind the deal if they regain power at elections in November 2020.

17 Responses to “Pelosi to Climate Conference: “We are Still In””

  1. jimbills Says:

    I’m an American, but I am sick of America on this. We were only one of three countries that wouldn’t sign Kyoto, we’re the only country trying to pull out of the Paris agreement, and we greatly weakened the Paris agreement for the rest of the world just to have us participate in it in the first place. Besides killing any chance of having mandates in it, we couldn’t accept a document that read nations “shall” reduce emissions. We had to have the word “should” instead:
    https://www.climatechangenews.com/2015/12/12/china-rescues-us-from-paris-climate-deal-typo-fiasco/

    At best, we’re a country where we’re only half in, and we’ve created chaos on global action for decades.

    I do hope we stay in the Paris agreement in 2020, but that shouldn’t be the question we are fighting for in the first place, and it’s time for the other countries of the world to stop letting us hamstring action. Start setting real goals and mandates and ignore whether we like it or not. We’re standing in the way of ambitious action, and that isn’t likely to change soon. Even if the Democrats sweep in 2020, there are elections again the following years. Our history proves we teeter totter continually between half sanity and insanity.

    For instance, UN chief Antonio Guterres has repeatedly suggested that there should be a ban on all new coal plants after 2020. That would be a concrete step that most other nations would agree is necessary. Do it! And make some form of penalty for nations that don’t do it.

    We wouldn’t sign that. I’m pretty sure several Democrats wouldn’t support it, either.

    Do it anyway.

  2. J4Zonian Says:

    “pledging that Congress would urgently tackle global warming”
    “…Congress’s commitment to take action on the climate crisis is iron clad,”

    Neither Pelosi nor the vast majority of other Congressional criminals have the slightest interest in doing anything urgent that would tackle global warming. The only ironclad things are their commitment to their own wealth and privilege, that of others like them, and the corrupt system they used to get it.

    In fact she hasn’t even adjusted to the new reality being pointed out by scientists, by calling it climate catastrophe, c. chaos, the c. crisis, etc. as the more honest (aka left-of-center) media outlets and advocates of real action have been doing.

    “The United States rallied support for the Paris Agreement under the administration of former U.S. President Barack Obama.”

    Obama and the US government, including Pelosi, sabotaged international negotiations for decades for the usual reason—to preserve their power and position. They rallied support for an agreement that would do that, though it does nothing to threaten the profits of fossil fuel, agrochemical, auto and other climate-wrecking corporations.

    So, apologies, but because not enough people here are talking about what we must talk about (and do) here I am going on and on and on again about the only course that will avoid cataclysmic ecological collapse—taking whatever peaceful actions are necessary to remove the corporate duopoly from power and replace them with people more responsive to reality, science, and the citizenry—in other words, with people who are, in US terms, radical leftists.

    And maybe drawing up model legislation to prosecute such criminals-against-humanity would give them warning and get them to back off just a bit. Probably not, but it should be done anyway, along with a truth and reconciliation process to get the whole truth about denial and the despicable actions of the whole range of deniers.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      So, Jeffy? Are you finally ready to vote for Warren in 2020?—-the one candidate who is most likely to push for the revolution you are always ranting about? (You DO vote, don’t you? You’ve never given any indication that you do)

      • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

        I like Warren, but I don’t understand why Bernie Sanders is practically invisible to the MSM. He has AOC’s endorsement for his support for the Green New Deal.

        The polls say he’s popular, but it looks like the DNC is trying to ignore him (again).

        • jimbills Says:

          Definitely. The media is corporate – mainstream Democrats are heavily funded by corporate interests. Most media outlets are centered in highly affluent areas. The people working there either grew up in this affluence, are affluent themselves, or are pressured by affluent higher ups. This moneyed influence creates its own bubble. Many are left-leaning, but far left ideas become threatening. Almost all news coverage is colored by this in either slight or major ways.

          Most coverage of Sanders is like this:
          https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/473019-clinton-still-disappointed-sanders-held-off-in-endorsing-her-in-2016

          Most coverage of Warren is like this:
          https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/4/20994485/democrats-primary-2020-medicare-sanders-warren-kamala-harris

          Ezra Klein not-so-subtly hints that Warren is going to follow Harris’ withdrawal – he all but outright says she can’t win due to her support of Medicare-for-all.

          Finding glowing support of Warren and Sanders in the Post, NYT, USA Today, and so on is a chore. That doesn’t even include sources like Fox – they are outright savage towards them. Warren was surging, she got attacked in the media and by mainstream candidates for Medicare-for-all, and she’s subsequently slumped in the polls.

          If either Warren or Sanders start to lead Biden, expect a full on blitz. Sanders isn’t considered a serious contender right now – the MSM ignores him now, but that would change if his poll numbers rose.

        • J4Zonian Says:

          It’s mathematically impossible now to stay under 1.5°; almost certainly impossible to stay under 2°. For civilization to survive at all, we need a climate mobilization even bigger and faster than Sanders’ plan. But every one of the corporate duopoly candidates including Warren is too committed to denial, capitalism, and US exceptionalism, ie narcissism, (especially through violence and neglect) to take the massive, immediate, radical actions necessary—except Bernie Sanders. That’s why he’s intolerable to Pelosi et al.

          Even his climate plan is inadequate, but that may be because he thinks he’s less likely to get elected if he’s the only one telling the truth. Either way, he’s the only one in touch with reality enough that he’ll be able or willing to adjust when pushed to find ways to lead the US away from the hell we’re creating. Even so, like FDR, he’ll probably have to be pushed by both changing reality and the movement he fostered.

          The Many Ways Sanders and Warren Are Different & Why It Matters
          https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/11/the-many-ways-sanders-and-warren-are-different-why-it-matters.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NakedCapitalism+%28naked+capitalism%29

          The Sanders Climate Plan Can Work. Warren’s Can’t.
          https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/10/climate-change-policy-elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders

          Progressives, trust your gut: Elizabeth Warren is not one of us
          Warren loves to antagonize the super-rich – but her campaign seems suspiciously designed to stave off revolution
          theguardian[DOT]com/commentisfree/2019/nov/24/elizabeth-warren-not-progressive?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVUy0xOTExMjQ%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUS&CMP=GTUS_email

        • jimbills Says:

          Here’s today’s coverage of Sanders, from CNN:
          Hillary Clinton absolutely destroyed Bernie Sanders in her Howard Stern interview
          https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-howard-stern/index.html

          Cillizza is CNN’s main commentator – he always gets pushed to the top with bold headlines.

          I personally think all media outlets that intend to be real and factual journalism should ban editorial comments on their sites. It used to be that editorials were relegated far back in a newspaper. One had to hunt for them. Now, they make top headline news on their websites, getting equal and often greater weight than actual news stories. It banishes any thought of objectivity for the entire publication.

          Here’s Cilliza on Warren two days ago:
          What is happening with Elizabeth Warren?
          https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/02/politics/elizabeth-warren-2020-momentum/index.html

          (I know ‘how’ it works – the comment articles are essentially click bait, bringing more revenue to the site. They aren’t going to give them up as a result. But, it’s a sad reflection of the state of the media today.)

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      s/wealth and privilege/power/

      • Ron Benenati Says:

        Could Pelosi possibly go beyond lip service on this ? After all this time?
        Or is it just a song and dance to when the driver seat back from trump so the establishment can throw us a few more crumbs?

      • J4Zonian Says:

        Sorry, don’t know what that means.

        • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

          The problem is those who choose power over either wealth or social privilege. People with a lot less money than I have like to use it to push other people around. Many rich people prefer influence behind the scenes over fame.

          • J4Zonian Says:

            “Where love rules, there is no will to power, and where power predominates, love is lacking. The one is the shadow of the other.”

            ― Carl Gustav Jung

  3. redskylite Says:

    Well I’m extremely glad to hear that the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives is publicly stating that. We are desperate. Still a few deniers try to dampen the thrust. Dana Nuccitelli is back with the Guardian and puts some sanity on our precarious position.

    Who ever wins in 2020 must listen perform like never before.

    Just hope the press, media and common sense can convey the necessity to the voters.

    “Climate models have accurately predicted global heating, study finds

    The findings confirm that since as early as 1970, climate scientists have had a solid fundamental understanding of the Earth’s climate system and the ability to project how it will respond to continued increases in the greenhouse effect. Since climate models have accurately anticipated global temperature changes so far, we can expect projections of future warming to be reliable as well.

    Those who oppose policies to limit the impacts of global heating have long sought to undermine the credibility of climate models. If the model projections are considered unreliable, they argue, then we do not know how urgent slowing global warming is. As a result, “climate models are unreliable” has become a popular myth propagated by climate deniers.

    The latest study adds to the body of evidence supporting the accuracy of climate models, and will be welcomed by those arguing that more aggressive climate policies are needed to avoid dangerous levels of global warming. The UN climate summit in Glasgow in 2020 will be crucial, as countries will be expected to commit to scaling up the emission reductions that were pledged in the 2015 Paris agreement on climate change.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/04/climate-models-have-accurately-predicted-global-heating-study-finds

    • J4Zonian Says:

      This is not a rational discussion. It’s not a debate in which points are made with facts and reasoning.* That was over years ago. No one is holding out because of honest beliefs about the accuracy of climate models and there is no one to be convinced by facts about them. The weather, and constant repetition that heating is human-caused, has convinced most people (70%) that climate catastrophe is real and human-caused. But they’re not the people in charge. As the public draws farther from the deniers (and the denial), the agenda of the right wing—their utter determination to destroy the world—is exposed, both as their agenda and as the mental illness with which they’re afflicted.

      So now it’s only about power. There are always more lies. The only thing that will stop them is removing the right wing from the decision-making process with relentless mass direct action; cutting off the money; taxing mbillionaires into thousandaireism; nationalizing and shutting down the fossil fuel and other collaborating corporations and their network of PR firms masquerading as think tanks; breaking media up and turning it over to non-profit groups; prosecuting, for crimes against humanity and the Earth, those who have lied about climate and energy (for fraud, SEC violations, treason…); radically equalizing politically and economically. Arguing about reality with insane people is pointless. Only political action to remove the insane people from power matters.

      * And even if it were, it’s moved beyond arguing about the existence and human cause of heating; now it’s about them laying traps by pretending to want a carbon price, it’s about their lies about how dire it is, and about anti-renewable lies, and pushing for nukes, and some lies about how swonderful sfossil sfuels are. It is still worth countering those lies to continue exposing the big lie—the one hiding the nihilistic agenda caused by their mental illness—so we can get enough people to take power through direct action, but it’s talking past the heads of the trolls to the other readers.


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