CNBC – The Rise of Solar Power

September 23, 2019

Pretty good vid, lots of figures and animations, interviews with key players including Dan Kammen.
Look for the assessment of battery storage toward the end.

6 Responses to “CNBC – The Rise of Solar Power”

  1. J4Zonian Says:

    There are several problems here and none are with the technology. Continuing to blame renewables for the gross failings of our political-economic system is buying into the agenda of nihilistic right wing psychopaths. We should stop doing that and get rid of them.

    1. The media keep focusing on the price of residential instead of utility-scale solar. It’s a troll lie they need to stop using.

    2. We’re still letting the oligarchs delay saving civilization until they can use it to show dominance and make enough money. We need to kick their asses out and replace them with sane people.

    Subsidies and externalities for fossil fuels (not even counting the dollar cost of ending civilization within a century) outweigh those for renewables by 10 to If we leave out the corn ethanol scam, fossil fuel subsidies outweigh renewables’ by more like 100 to 1. A political-economic system that does that needs to be scrammed.

    3. For what little progress is happening to be driven by the demand side mostly by monopolistic corporations in industries that represent a colossal waste of resources, is a sign of fundamental and pervasive emotional disturbance in our society. It needs to be healed.

  2. rhymeswithgoalie Says:

    3. For what little progress is happening to be driven by the demand side mostly by monopolistic corporations in industries that represent a colossal waste of resources, is a sign of fundamental and pervasive emotional disturbance in our society.

    I disagree. First off, new tech gets tested and launched via these large company projects. They’re also much more efficient, well-maintained and cost-effective than, say, onesy-twosy home roof solar. Municipalities converting from legacy systems to the new configuration that is required for renewable would come as the next stage in the tech-market cycle, taking advantage of lower piece costs and the now-growing population of professional power techs. (Public utilities have the additional overhead of political wrassling and whining over changes, where private corps have the luxury of just negotiating with professionals and letting them do their jobs.)

    • J4Zonian Says:

      As I said, what I object to most is the lack of progress from other places.

      But privatization, what you’re advocating (in between what seem to me irrelevant ramblings) has turned out to be a catastrophe, especially in the context of mergers that create corporations too big to control—in fact with the collaboration of the corporate duopoly party, they’ve come to control government, and have skewed the world to the right while taking money and power from individuals and democratic government. When it’s not owned by corporations, and is responsive to a secure, educated, healthy citizenry, that government is more efficient, more benign, infinitely more effective at developing more useful and benign technologies, and culturally appropriate to a society that sees itself as fair and equal, though it’s neither. Given the behavior of fossil fuel, agrochemical, media, and banking industries that have warped civilization in their own short term financial, ideological and (twisted) psychological interest, is there any doubt of that?

      The interests of profit-driven corporations are almost always diametrically opposed to the interests of society. I don’t understand how anyone can not just know that who isn’t driven by denial and warped ideology, so I have no idea how to answer you in the space available here.

      • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

        For all their amoral behavior, corporations, both because of fiat powers and their ability to adapt more quickly to changes, have used their clout to further a lot of technical and social movements. Major companies (Hobby Lobby notwithstanding) have made the difference in social movements because they have no ties to religious movements, or their sociopolitical concerns run second to those notorious profits. When politicians were weaselly about the notions of civil unions or—gasp!—SSM, big companies more interested in holding onto young talent than to catering to the vocal religious minorities.

        I do recognize that in so many ways corporate sociopathy is a problem, and I prefer the Justice Democrats (progressives) over the last few decades’ corporate Democrats, I never want to be so anti-corporate that I would have agreed with Ralph Nader that it would be better to vote for Trump than Corporate Hillary because he would be impeached soon after taking office.

  3. rhymeswithgoalie Says:

    In that Moore’s Law video from an earlier post, I noticed the large jump by multiple chips in the 1999ish time frame, AKA the notorious Tech Bubble. This was a result of huge amounts of investment money going into high tech R&D. Many technology bets were losses, but in the frenzy to create the next breakthrough product, a lot of practical advances were made.

    I see the scrambling over energy storage technologies resulting in a lot of failed startups and dead ends, but I expect the surviving technologies benefiting society as a whole.


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