Poll Shows Americans Getting Climate Change

September 17, 2019

I say “getting” because “believing in” is poor framing.
We don’t “believe in” gravity – we live it.

15 Responses to “Poll Shows Americans Getting Climate Change”

  1. grindupbaker Says:

    Well yes Americans are Getting Climate Change but then they just say “Meh, Climate always Changes” because they are Americans.

    • Brent Jensen-Schmidt Says:

      This is encouraging news and not limited to the USA. Also, the ‘meh’ bit is not limited to amerikans and is a problem to be overcome everywhere.

      • jimbills Says:

        Yeah, I pretty much see the poll as confirming more a switch in denial tactics then “getting” climate change. If they don’t believe it’s human caused, then they don’t either get or believe in climate change – they’ve just found a different way to deny it’s a major problem. I’m seeing a consistent 1/3 number of Americans in the poll in regards to: is it human caused and is it a crisis. The next wall to face after “it’s just a natural cycle” denial will be the actual politics – how much government involvement, etc. We’re still a fair way away from that in the national level.

        Good that CBS is doing this, everything can help in that direction, but I’ll be more more optimistic when Fox is doing it as well – as they’re the ones really influencing the other half to 2/3 of the country.


  2. Great segment and post.

    I would add to the list of things Americans can do: Contact your representatives to tell them that the climate crisis is a top concern for you, and that they should take action by passing legislation to address it.

    If can make a monthly call to your members of Congress, that makes a real difference. You can sign up to do this at the Grand Canyon Project:

    https://www.projectgrandcanyon.com

  3. rhymeswithgoalie Says:

    Over the last few years, as the planet’s own environmental rhythms have seemed to grow more fatalistic, skeptics have found themselves arguing not that climate change isn’t happening, since extreme weather has made that undeniable, but that its causes are unclear—suggesting that the changes we are seeing are the result of natural cycles rather than human activities and interventions. It is a very strange argument; if the planet is warming at a terrifying pace and on a horrifying scale, it should transparently concern us more, rather than less, that the warming is beyond our control, possibly even our comprehension.
     —David Wallace-Wells, The Uninhabitable Earth

  4. jimbills Says:

    This is turning into a major story:
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/politics/epa-trump-california/index.html

    Republican hypocrisy never fails. They scream states rights at every occasion except when a state does something they don’t like.

    ‘”We embrace federalism and the role of the states, but federalism does not mean that one state can dictate standards for the nation,” Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Andrew Wheeler said Tuesday. ‘

    Mr. Wheeler – California has no legal ability to ‘dictate’ standards for the nation. They can only decide what’s best for themselves. They happen to be a very large market for autos, so they do have pull over the market as a whole. Are you saying you only believe in states rights for the smaller states?

  5. jimbills Says:

    Earth warming more quickly than thought, new climate models show
    https://news.yahoo.com/earth-warming-more-quickly-thought-climate-models-show-145927693.html

    “With our two models, we see that the scenario known as SSP1 2.6 — which normally allows us to stay under 2C — doesn’t quite get us there,” Olivier Boucher, head of the Institute Pierre Simon Laplace Climate Modelling Centre in Paris, told AFP.

    SSP1 is their most optimistic scenario:
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-shared-socioeconomic-pathways-explore-future-climate-change

    SSP1: Sustainability – Taking the Green Road (Low challenges to mitigation and adaptation)
    The world shifts gradually, but pervasively, toward a more sustainable path, emphasizing more inclusive development that respects perceived environmental boundaries. Management of the global commons slowly improves, educational and health investments accelerate the demographic transition, and the emphasis on economic growth shifts toward a broader emphasis on human well-being. Driven by an increasing commitment to achieving development goals, inequality is reduced both across and within countries. Consumption is oriented toward low material growth and lower resource and energy intensity.

  6. Gingerbaker Says:

    I get colds. And flu. All sorts of aches and pains. Various infirmities.

    I get an alcoholic beverage very day at 4 pm. I’m retired now and I just don’t care to wait til five.

    One of the things I “believe” in is global warming. I believe it is true because of scientific evidence.

    I don’t believe fairies live in my garden.

    I don’t believe in the supernatural.

    “Belief” in something, based on scientific evidence, is not a pejorative term. Religion does not have the right to hijack the usual meaning of the term. Nor does AGW denial.

    • mboli Says:

      To paraphrase the first part of your post: “It’s 4:00 PM. I believe it’s time for a drink.”

    • J4Zonian Says:

      Denying delayalists seize on the word “belief” as an excuse for their dishonest attack saying that climate catastrophe is a religion. That is, they project their irrationality about evidence onto people who accept the science of climate cataclysm. Of course, if they’re not using that, they’re using something else, but the more avenues of attack we take away from them that have the potential to work on the unconscious minds of fence-sitters and confused people, the more they have to go to their even more ridiculous arguments. Since it’s such an easy change and gives us a chance to mention “science” yet again, it seems worth remembering.


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