Bill Maher on Fat America and the Burning Amazon

September 8, 2019

Politically incorrect but not wrong.

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7 Responses to “Bill Maher on Fat America and the Burning Amazon”

  1. Steven Jones Says:

    Except what is a poor diet? so many lies on what is good or bad to eat.

    • retiredinny Says:

      He neglected to mention the other factor in weight gain, exercise. A lot of bad diet choices can be counteracted with exercise.

      • J4Zonian Says:

        True. And using more muscle power is one way we need to change for both our health and the biosphere’s. Even this is not mainly a personal change but a political and social one, setting up communities and lives to enable and encourage walking, bicycling, judiciously chosen manual labor and simple, physical fun.

        “Eat food, not too much, mostly plants.” Michael Pollan
        Even with diet, we’re not just talking about personal change or personal health now; we’re talking about what effects producing our food has on climate and the larger ecological crisis and what political, social, economic, educational, and other changes need to happen for our survival. The best for both is a varied diet of mostly perennial plants, grown on small-scale farms using organic permaculture. Of course there’s a lot of room for refinement; organically permacultured palm oil, for example, seems to fit but is a bad idea for both of us.

        A lot like aging means getting used to change and loss, and focusing on what’s really important, it will become more and more important not to be invested too heavily–economically, emotionally, socially–in particular foods and habits as climate catastrophe worsens. As foods are threatened (as coffee, tea, chocolate, bananas, beer, wine, most seafoods,* corn, wheat, rice, avocados, maple syrup, honey and everything pollinated by bees, beef, beans, fruits like cherries, peaches, and strawberries, almonds, and many other foods already are) there will be great temptation to double down on whatever works to keep them coming. Some will reach in desperation for more or more toxic biocides, more fertilizer, more intensive methods (obsessively abiotic and industrial agriculture, eg) etc. If we want civilization and the rest of nature to survive we need to resist, and stick to what sequesters carbon, improves diversity of life, and improves our own well-being.

        *If irony existed it would surely be ironic that just as seafood was about to become hugely healthier and safer to eat because we’re stopping the burning of fossil fuels (the main source of mercury, lead and other heavy metals and nasty stuff) we’re going to lose all those foods to the accumulated insults of pollution, plastic, heat, industrial overfishing, wasteful by-catch, and acidification.

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      Not a great fan of Michael Pollan, but I like his succinct advice on diet:
      – eat food
      – not too much
      – mostly vegetables

    • neilrieck Says:

      I’ve always thought that adults eating sugar were behaving like children. But like tobacco, too much money is made from sugar for anyone to be allowed to criticize it in any way. Last weekend I learned that North American farmers have increased the sugar content of “sweet corn” to over 40% (may as well call it candy corn) but some people I’ve talked to say “yah, but it is natural” to which I reply so is “snake venom”

  2. rhymeswithgoalie Says:

    I’d like to see him give up pot for a month, so he can show everyone how personally disciplined he is.

    • jimbills Says:

      Ha!

      I’m not overweight, as I inherited a thin frame, so this isn’t personal, and yes, Americans are definitely overweight, but I have to frown at this from Maher. A lot of diet is directly tied to income. The cheapest food in the market is also the unhealthiest.

      Just make broccoli cost a fraction of corn chips and Coke instead of the reverse. Or give Americans a living wage and the personal time to cook a decent meal. Or build communities where people can walk instead of drive everywhere. There’s no money in that for the shareholders of our corporations, though, of which Maher is likely one. He probably has his own personal chef and trainer.

      It’s easy to mock others who don’t have the same access to money or were lucky enough genetically, and shaming someone who almost certainly is already ashamed of their weight won’t do a d**n thing.


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