AOC: Trump Voter Switches on Climate

May 11, 2019

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez via ThreadreaderApp:

About an hour ago, I was walking out of my office for the day.

There was a man what I believe was his teenage son hanging a small sign they made outside my office (we let people leave well wishes on our wall).

Astonishingly, his sign read: “Trump supporters for Ocasio-Cortez.”
I was pretty astonished.

We shook hands, he introduced himself, and told me he wanted to show his support.
I could barely get my question out – I wanted to honor his positivity, yet respectfully find a way to ask, “How?”
I somehow got it out: “With all respect sir, how do you… manage to support both of us at the same time?”

This is what he said:
“I’ve been saying for years that climate change is our most important crisis. You’re one of the only ones who‘s been willing to be decisive on it.”
Then he said, “I like you. I can tell that you are genuine and fighting for us. You’re real and you get it.”

I thanked him and his family from the bottom of my heart.
All of this is to say don’t let any politician, no matter the party, lecture you about what is “possible” or “electable.”

Don’t ever let a politician imply that working people are “less-than” or “uneducated” – aka that they are the ones in the way of solving the climate crisis.
The forces getting in the way of solving our climate crisis are politicians themselves + lobbyists. It is the willingness to bend to corporate power – the same ones that use coal miners’ plights for a tax break, yet refuse to pay for those same miners’ healthcare for black lung.
If you don’t understand this man’s sign – or don’t approach it with a desire to – then you do not understand this political moment.

The same folks who said Trump was impossible in 2016 are the same ones lecturing on what’s “electable” in 2020. 
Don’t buy it. Vote your values.

10 Responses to “AOC: Trump Voter Switches on Climate”

  1. jimbills Says:

    This post: don’t compromise your values!

    Immediately previous post: compromise your values!

    • greenman3610 Says:

      I’m comfortable holding two ideas in mind at once.

      speaking as someone who lives in the Heartland, and has spent the last 2 years specifically meeting with and talking to folks in rural areas about difficult issues, I can see how some one like Joe Biden can effectively connect with a lot of folks. I can also see how AOC’s message is a powerful one. I’d like to see her get out into more rural areas – clearly the Repubs are afraid of that.
      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gop-s-getting-scared-ocasio-cortez-swipes-back-after-republican-n995501

      It is not a compromise to elect someone who will turn us off the path Mr Trump has us on – which is basically any democrat. I’m not a fan of purity testing our allies in a time of crisis.

      • jimbills Says:

        Sure, and fair enough. I’d like to see Ocasio-Cortez do that, as well. She’s a bit too ‘citified’ and needs to see the other America.

        I’m not a fan of anyone telling anyone else how/why they should vote, though, too. It’s their vote, and they have the right and duty to vote their conscience and values.

        The purity testing on centrism in the nominations comes into play subtly at first, and then in full force at the critical moments. It happens every cycle. That constant ‘you should vote this way’ drone. As someone who is far left, it’s infuriating. My own values are never represented. The closest I got was Obama in 2008, and then he turned into a moderate Republican:
        https://thehill.com/policy/finance/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s

        And that said, yes, I know full well Trump is a menace. He can’t have the next Supreme Court pick. I worry most about his stability during a critical moment – he seems to be fine when the country is stable, but what happens if it’s not? I know he’s mentally ill – a textbook narcissist who has little to no conscious internal life.

        But, in the end, we have set up and constantly reinforce the binary Presidential system here: D R D R D R D R D ad infinitum. Each race is ‘vital’, and we always hold our breath as if our lives depend on it, and it just flops back and forth, back and forth, and each time we treat it like a new experience when it’s really just the same one with new faces.

        As for Joe Biden, we’ll see. He has a long history of going absolutely nowhere in the nomination. I’m not convinced he can connect with the masses. But he will have significant backing this time, and the South is likely to go for him in a big way. If he’s on the ballot in South Carolina, I think it might be over.

        • J4Zonian Says:

          I was buying a bike once, looking for an upgrade from my usual 105s–that is, Shimano’s “105” line of components like shifters, derailleurs, etc. The bike shop guy was trying to sell me on a bike with 105s by saying it had “deep” 105s–that is, the parts you couldn’t see like axles, etc. were also 105s, unlike most bikes that went with visible 105 components and cheaper hidden ones.

          The corporate duopoly is a ratchet, and we keep electing both R and D pawls that only allow us to move to the right. Rs move us fast, some Ds seem to not be moving us much but they move us rightward by making the rightwardness deeper. They move it in less visible but sometimes even more crucial ways. Bush the Lesser’s handlers did all kinds of things to move us to the right, but the executive order increase, increase in troops and mercenaries, the huge numbers of drone strikes, the repeal of regulations… could all have been reversed and thus repudiated by Obama, and we would almost have returned to the previous ratchet setting. But Obama continued or intensified almost all of Bush’s policies, thus ratifying them, so with the rightward-only ratchet they became almost retroactively virtually permanent changes.

          Every flip “back” to a corporate D (whether POTUS or CONGRUS, is just placing another pawl in the ratchet. Each one we add not only allows only rightward movement but further restricts the range of motion between the pawls. As long as we keep electing pawls like Biden and all the other corporate Democrats, we’ll keep moving to the right, just as surely if sometimes a little slower.

          There’s no purity test, only a survival test. It’s about whether we’ll hold in place with yet another center-right D pawl. We have almost no chance now of avoiding the collapse of civilization; another pawl from either half of the corporate duopoly is as likely as not to end all possibility. The only chance we have is with a progressive president, so if we want civilization to survive we’ll find a way to have one.

          • jimbills Says:

            J4, bless ya brutha, you ain’t wrong. It’s just that in no version of the multiverse does the ratcheting not continue. Wish it weren’t so. We just aren’t as smart as we hope or think we are.

      • Brent Jensen-Schmidt Says:

        Am stealing ‘purity testing’ on the assumption you won’t mind.

  2. rabiddoomsayer Says:

    AOC rocks. So sick of have to choose bad, because otherwise worse. Now there is good.

  3. rhymeswithgoalie Says:

    What the people want is sincerity, and Trump can fake that extremely well.

    • jimbills Says:

      I remember during the nominations, someone in suburban neighborhood outside Dallas put up a homemade billboard for Trump. The largest image on there was the most unflattering snap of him – one where his mouth was open and he was practically spitting. The rest was other images and pro-Trump slogans.

      I saw that and knew we were in trouble. His faults were actually seen as a point of pride. I’m pretty sure people who attend his rallies and listen to his rambling incoherence find it endearing. He’s being ‘real’ to them.

      People see what they want to see, but this is amplified, and it speaks to a real disgust with politics as usual. I’m afraid the Democrats don’t understand this, and that it still exists.

      America is currently two separate and separating countries. One is the city centers and coasts, and the other is the heartland. The Democratic candidate who can speak to both is the one who has the best chance to win. Centrist policies aren’t necessarily the key. The people in the heartland want someone who will speak convincingly to them that they will help them. Biden has blue collar roots, but he also looks super fake to me.

    • BL Brown Says:

      For a value of ‘well’ that doesn’t include coherence or actual facts…


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