Why Get Vaccinated? When it’s Wind Turbines that Cause Measles, after all…

April 3, 2019

What it’s like when your boss is barking bonkers.

Antifaxxers are working together.
Fox News spreading doubts about Vaccines, Climate change, renewable energy, science and verifiable fact in general.
Trump joins in with claims that wind turbines cause cancer.

Wind Turbines have been blamed for everything from Headaches, to Herpes, to Hemmorhoids, to “vibrating lips”.

The Age:

The inaudible sound caused by wind farms is no worse than that from other rural and urban environments and does not affect human health, a review by the Victorian Department of Health has found.

Some groups claim the inaudible noise from wind turbines, known as infrasound, can trigger health problems including dizziness, headaches, and insomnia. Together, the syndromes are sometimes described as ”wind turbine syndrome”.

The Health Department review, released late last week, assessed the evidence and found it does not ”support claims that inaudible sounds can have direct physiological effects. Physiological effects on humans have only been detected at levels that are easily audible.”

The report says infrasound is generated by many sources, such as trains, breaking waves and airconditioners. The department found the evidence showed wind farms produced no more infrasound than the background level in other environments.

”Humans have been exposed to high levels of infrasound throughout our evolution, with no apparent effects,” the report says.

Simon Chapman, a professor of Public Health at the University of Sydney, has been collecting anecdotes heard and seen on the internet about purported wind turbine effects.  They include “vibrating lips” and herpes. Chapman writes:

about purported wind turbine effects.  They include “vibrating lips” and herpes. Chapman writes:

I commenced building this collection of ever-growing claims made about health problems in humans and animals that wind farm opponents attribute to exposure to wind turbines in January 2012. All the claims below are referenced to their web sources, mostly websites of opponents of wind farms and submissions they have made to governments.

Opponents of wind turbines have reacted badly to this list which has been downloaded many thousands of times. They argue that by publishing it and regularly updating it with new claims, I am thereby “ridiculing” people who say they are ill.

This is a peculiar claim which suggests that those who actively publicise these alleged problems want to walk on both sides of the street: on the one hand, they continue to publicise particular symptoms and diseases because they wish to promote awareness about the harms they believe are being caused. They then cry that it is disgraceful that all such complaints should be placed together here, because … well … it invites ridicule to see almost every conceivable health problem being attributed to wind turbines, especially because in regions like Europe, turbines are very common in many nations.

Some windbaggers insist that turbine effects can “rock stationary cars even further than a kilometer away from the nearest wind turbine..” and extend outward for a hundred kilometers.
Does this mean wind turbines can cause herpes in space?

Further research needed.



28 Responses to “Why Get Vaccinated? When it’s Wind Turbines that Cause Measles, after all…”

  1. Keith McClary Says:

    The link was broken for me. Wayback machine:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20131024130352/http://tobacco.health.usyd.edu.au/assets/pdfs/publications/WindfarmDiseases.pdf

    Last updated: March 13 2013
    Total: 216

  2. Sir Charles Says:

    Many thanks for this valuable information, Peter.

    In Ireland, commercial wind turbines must have mandatory minimum 500m set back distance. Further, they have to be built at a distance of four times the height of the turbine from residential areas. This means a 150m wind turbine would have to be constructed at least 600m from the nearest home.

  3. Sir Charles Says:

    6 Problems with Wind Turbine Syndrome

    1. There is no consensus on what it does or who it affects.
    2. The symptoms attributed to Wind Turbine Syndrome do not require any cause.
    3. The timing of complaints is too unlikely.
    4. The geographic dispersion of complaints is too unlikely.
    5. Only implausible causes have been suggested.
    6. Almost nobody seems to agree that it exists.

    Also => The Link between Health Complaints and Wind Turbines: Support for the Nocebo Expectations Hypothesis

  4. J4Zonian Says:

    How loud is a windbagger?

    A windbagger bloviating on the effects of paying attention to scientific evidence can still be heard 100 meters away. The effects of listening to windbaggers can include muscle tension, rage, headaches, and eventually, excess drowsiness. If exposure is continued, sub-occipital flushing, lowered IQ, aggressiveness, over-confidence and loss of empathy can result.

    So windbaggers should always be sited at least 300 meters from any human or recording device.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      Well said. Can the windbagger exposure be transmitted through the “ether”? I get most of those symptoms every time I see our President-by-accident on TV or hear him on the radio. Will a tinfoil hat help?

      • Sir Charles Says:

        “President-by-accident”? So the Electoral College is an “accident”? The fact that 42% of US Americans still approve this moron is an “accident”? Maybe the invasion of Iraq was an “accident” too. Too many accidents I’d say. As a car driver you’d be long banned from driving for such accidents.

        • dumboldguy Says:

          No, no, no, Chucky! Until you tell us some things that you think are GOOD about America, you’re not allowed to post your usual anti-American BS (unless you want to reinforce the belief that you are a troll for America’s enemies, of course).

          The electoral college is an anachronism in a society that believes in “one man, one vote”, Iraq was most definitely NOT an accident, and accidents while driving cars cars are irrelevant, since they have no connection to politics. You overreach (as usual) with your rhetoric, but since we know you love to hear yourself talk, we’ll just have to put up with it, I guess.

          And what about Ryan Air being the 10th. biggest emitter of GHG in the EU, just below nine freaking COAL-burning power plants? Any thoughts about that? Or is it just an “accident”? Is it an “accident” that you are invariably MUTE when questions are asked of you?

          • Sir Charles Says:

            Jaysus, kiddy glove. You’re moving the goal posts with a truck now. I don’t fly with Ryan Air, Mr Whatabouty, and I never claimed that their emissions are an “accident”.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Yes, your aversion to “goalposts” has been apparent for some time now. We could plant thousands of them and you’d evade them. They’re not part of your “game” are they? (And “gaming” us is why you’re here, isn’t it?)

          • Sir Charles Says:

            If you can’t stand an argument the stop posting nonsense in the first place.

            “President-by-accident”, my @rse!

          • dumboldguy Says:

            This is NOT nonsense:

            “The electoral college is an anachronism in a society that believes in “one man, one vote”, Iraq was most definitely NOT an accident, and accidents while driving cars cars are irrelevant, since they have no connection to politics”.

            YOUR NON-responses to that are the “nonsense”, proving once again that YOU are the one that “can’t stand an argument”.

        • Sir Charles Says:

          BTW, here you can do something to avoid further accidents

          => Tell Congress: Abolish the Electoral College.

          • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

            You’ll receive periodic updates on offers and activism opportunities.

            No thanks.

            In any case, TYT on YouTube described a movement that does an end run around the US Congress: If enough states (representing >270 electoral votes) write laws promising that their electoral college votes will all go to whoever got the national popular vote, democracy will prevail.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            I’ve signed many petitions put forth by MoveOn and Credo over many years, and have attended local “protests” organized by local MoveOn members. Both groups are OK, and they don’t try to sell you anything but a way to advocate for a better world.

            Chucky needs to stay on his own side of the pond and worry about those who would drill for shale gas there, and burn that nasty peat as fuel, as well as that HORRIBLE polluter, Ryan Air, that he doesn’t want to talk about. Imagine—-that flyspeck country has an airline that is NUMBER TEN on the list of GHG emitters in the ENTIRE European Union.

          • Sir Charles Says:

            If you want no more mails then just unsubscribe, rhymeswithgoalie. What’s the problem?

            And no, dumboldguy, I’m not inclined to reply to every myth you’re making up. If you wanna meet somebody who should answer all your questions see a doctor or a psychoanalyst.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            I would be satisfied with a reply to just ONE of my many “myths”, Chucky. You’re a charlatan and a poser, and would provide lifetime employment for that psychoanalyst you so blithely recommend for those who don’t swallow your bullshit.

    • Sir Charles Says:

      Never heard of WAARP? Windbaggers Angrily Announce Real Poo

  5. rhymeswithgoalie Says:

    When I was a child, leaded gasoline was still a thing, and I’ve been sickened by car exhaust, diesel exhaust and gas fumes in the decades since.

    People don’t notice the bad in the familiar, and they imagine a lot of bad in the new.

  6. doldrom Says:

    “Inaudible sound” … quite troublesome. The tricky part is you just don’t notice it.
    I also have trouble with “invisible light” during the night.
    “Non-computable income” is also a care I share with many others.

    • rhymeswithgoalie Says:

      Hail Pedantia!

      FWIW, infrasound is heard and used by elephants, but is inaudible to humans. Richard Wisearse was looking into whether the vibrations of infrasound are picked up by human torsos and contributing to “eerie feelings” in some buildings.

      Ultraviolet light is perceived by insects, but not humans, and night vision goggles allow us to see otherwise invisible infrared.

  7. Sir Charles Says:

    The Link between Health Complaints and Wind Turbines: Support for the Nocebo Expectations Hypothesis

    Abstract

    The worldwide expansion of wind energy has met with opposition based on concerns that the infrasound generated by wind turbines causes health problems in nearby residents. In this paper, we argue that health complaints are more likely to be explained by the nocebo response, whereby adverse effects are generated by negative expectations. When individuals expect a feature of their environment or medical treatment to produce illness or symptoms, then this may start a process where the individual looks for symptoms or signs of illness to confirm these negative expectations. As physical symptoms are common in healthy people, there is considerable scope for people to match symptoms with their negative expectations. To support this hypothesis, we draw an evidence from experimental studies that show that, during exposure to wind farm sound, expectations about infrasound can influence symptoms and mood in both positive and negative directions, depending on how expectations are framed. We also consider epidemiological work showing that health complaints have primarily been located in areas that have received the most negative publicity about the harmful effects of turbines. The social aspect of symptom complaints in a community is also discussed as an important process in increasing symptom reports. Media stories, publicity, or social discourse about the reported health effects of wind turbines are likely to trigger reports of similar symptoms, regardless of exposure. Finally, we present evidence to show that the same pattern of health complaints following negative information about wind turbines has also been found in other types of environmental concerns and scares.


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