Venice a Preview of the Future

October 31, 2018

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13 Responses to “Venice a Preview of the Future”

  1. dumboldguy Says:

    They have got to be kidding! People sitting in ankle deep water eating their pizza as if it wasn’t happening? Man’s ability to deny reality is beyond fathoming. And many of these folks FLEW in or came by boat from many thousands of miles away—without giving one thought to their carbon footprint and how it contributes to the flooding.

    One has to laugh also at the lack of progress on the supposed “barrier” that will keep this from happening—my prediction? It will be a day late and a dollar short. So, folks—-book your cruises or airline tickets to Venice before it’s too late! Go more than once so that you can say you were one of the last to see it before it sank!

  2. redskylite Says:

    Should be playing Monty Python “Always look on the Bright-side of Life” in the background – good news for waterproof boot manufacturers anyways.

    “At least 11 people have died in Italy this week due to historic flooding throughout the country, officials said Tuesday.

    In Venice, more than 70 percent of the city was inundated as water levels rose over five feet above normal. In addition to heavy rain, sea water was also pushed into the city by a powerful storm and exacerbated by high tides. ”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/10/31/italy-flooding-climate-change-venice/1831116002/

  3. Gingerbaker Says:

    Venice is has been submerged for century. They will just keep building skyward. Seems to work quite well for them.

    Be nice if we could perfect the ancient Roman recipe for seawater-proof concrete, though. Now, there’s a market opportunity!

    “And many of these folks FLEW in or came by boat from many thousands of miles away—without giving one thought to their carbon footprint and how it contributes to the flooding.”

    See, that’s because almost everyone on the planet LIVES thousands of miles away from Venice. Let me mansplain it for you. 🙂

    Venice is a teeny-weeny small place. The Earth is a very big place in comparison. So it is a very long way to Venice unless you are in Venice, or close to Venice, and most people are not. …. See?

    How do you expect someone to get to Venice without causing pollution these days? Swimming there? With luggage?!? Nobody likes wet clothes, so, yeah you fly there.

    You think people should be agonizing over their carbon footprint for flying to Venice? Have you done the math?

    According to the World Resource Institute, aviation is 1.5% of total world GHG emissions. A round trip to Venice is, say, 10,000 miles.

    Annual world-wide total air miles flown – 50 billion

    So, the *plane* you travel on represents 0.0000002 of that 1.5%.

    But there are 400 other passengers on that plane, so your contribution to the total would be 0.0000000005 of that 1.5%, or 0.00000000075%.

    That doesn’t seem like a lot to me. If a person did or did not go to Venice makes essentially zero difference to our situation. People curtailing their vacation travel is NOT the answer. Government mandates to make our transportation system carbon free is the answer.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      Ah, I have stuck a pin in GB and the hot air is escaping rapidly. And such math skills! Look at all those meaningless zeros! And look at all the dust as he beats his straw man to death (or is it a red herring in a straw coat?)

      I suspect that GB has either been to Venice or badly wants to go, and is therefore “sensitive” to my criticism of eco-terrorism by tourists. There is NO freaking reason for any human being to go to Venice, just as there is NO reason for 1000 people to visit the North Pole every year, or for many thousands to fly over the South Pole every year (at $50K a pop), or—-best of all—-for 258 people to have climbed the highest mountains on all seven continents.

      ALL of those activities are just a selfish, self-absorbed waste of the planet’s resources, and Mother Nature is keeping score—-these people who view themselves as “winners” when they take selfies while standing knee deep in the flood in Venice (to show the neighbors or post on fb) are going to cause the human race to be the biggest losers of all.

      • Gingerbaker Says:

        Of course there is a good reason to go to Venice, DOG. For the gorgeous Venetian blinds, you Philistine !!!

        And yes – I certainly DO want to visit Venice one day, and other places as well. It’s all part of the grand tapestry of this concept we regular, functional human beings have, which we call: “Enjoying Life”.

        See, when you don’t spend all your g-d time keeping those g-d kids offa your g-d lawn like some red-clawed terrier from hell, you have time to contemplate these things……

        Polo! That’s another reason to visit Venice. They have great Polo there, the best.

        • dumboldguy Says:

          Since I spend NO time “keeping the kids off my lawn”—-it may be the ugliest on the street because I do NOT “chemicalize” it at all and devote my efforts to the health of my trees—-I do have time to “contemplate”, and I DO thank you for helping to confirm my belief that “those activities are just a selfish, self-absorbed waste of the planet’s resources”.

          “….this concept we regular, functional human beings have, which we call: “Enjoying Life”.? JFC! I thought you were better than that—-I’m surprised to hear you spouting such anthropocentric BS. Ask all the life forms that we are driving to extinction how much they are “enjoying life”, and hop in your time machine and go forward to 2050 and ask the same of whatever humans are still alive.

  4. Lionel Smith Says:

    Venice gets a mention in Hunt Janin and Scott A Mandia’s excellent:

    ‘Rising Sea Levels: An Introduction to Cause and Impact’.

    Vivaldi would have composed ‘Water Music’ if Handel hadn’t got there first.

    In reality Vivaldi had composed many a fine tune before Handel created the rather pedestrian, in most movements, Water Music.

    Vivaldi wrote much magical music, some could call it decadent but going beyond The For Seasons is worthwhile.

    Try e.g. the opening of Violin Concerto No. 1 in C Major, RV 181a from his Opus 9 La Cetra:

    Podger is a maestro on the Violin.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      Interestng that you bring up violin music. LOL I am now “playing the world’s smallest violin” after listening to GB’s whining defense of “tourism”.

      • Lionel Smith Says:

        “playing the world’s smallest violin”

        You may have some trouble playing a la Tartini.

        • dumboldguy Says:

          True, but the only tune I ever play on the world’s smallest violin for comments like GB’s has just two repeating notes to go with the lyrics—-Hee-Haw, Hee-Haw.


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