Sabotage at Tesla?

June 21, 2018

Hacking emails on behalf of an unknown third party hostile to renewable energy?
Who ever heard of such a thing?

It’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
Corollary –
If you are not paranoid in 2018, you don’t fully understand the situation.

Digital Trends:

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First reported by CNBC, the lawsuit claims that Tripp has “thus far admitted to writing software that hacked Tesla’s manufacturing operating system (‘MOS’) and to transferring several gigabytes of Tesla data to outside entities,” including “dozens of confidential photographs and a video of Tesla’s manufacturing systems.” It also accuses him of writing computer code “to periodically export Tesla’s data off its network and into the hands of third parties.”

The suit claims that Tripp, who was at the company for eight months, became upset after failing to receive a desired promotion at Tesla and had been causing trouble among fellow workers as a result.

But Tripp told the Washington Post on Wednesday that he did not interfere with the company’s internal systems and instead wanted to blow the lid on “some really scary things” he claims to have seen at the company. This includes an accusation that Tesla shipped Model 3 cars with damaged batteries, something the company vehemently denies. He also confirmed to the Post that he gave information to Business Insider in early June for an article about Tesla’s raw-material waste.

Tripp, 40, denied hacking into any of Tesla’s computers, and said he wasn’t bothered about the failure to get a promotion.

News that Tesla had tracked down what it claimed to be a rogue employee first emerged at the start of this week after several news outlets came into possession of an email sent by Tesla CEO Elon Musk to employees on Sunday.

In the email, Musk said he was “dismayed” to discover that an employee has been conducting “quite extensive and damaging sabotage to our operations.”

Musk: There are many who “want Tesla to die”

Tesla is trying to find out if Tripp’s alleged wrongdoing was a lone act or if he was working with others inside or outside of the company. Musk said in his email that there’s a “long list” of organizations that “want Tesla to die,” among them competitors in the auto industry, Wall Street short-sellers, and oil and gas firms who “don’t love the idea of Tesla advancing the progress of solar power and electric cars.”

 

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18 Responses to “Sabotage at Tesla?”

  1. dumboldguy Says:

    Hmmmmm…..

    Where have we seen this before? Fake news, leakers and hackers, lawsuits, chaos and confusion—just “noise” to deflect and distract from the real issues.

  2. Gingerbaker Says:

    Ok, I’ll bite. Just what is the “fake news” here, and what are the “real issues”?

    • dumboldguy Says:

      You are so easy—-say anything the least bit disparaging about your hero and you’re flopping on the dock waiting for the hook to be taken out—-you’re lucky I believe in catch-and-release.

      What are the fake news and the issues? How about the straw man issue of people wanting the company to die and (perhaps, maybe) sabotaging it from the inside? An excuse as to why they can’t meet production targets? How about recently laying off 9% of his work force (over 3000 people)? How about insisting on trying to dig those dumbass tunnels when he still can’t move cars out the door and make a profit? How about having one of your top models go up in flames for no reason and saying it’s “a very rare occurrence”? You really don’t see any parallels to The Orange Menace?

      (And there’s always the distraction of Mars. Of course, by the time Musk gets the government to buy his BFR, flooding from extreme weather and SLR will likely require relocation of the Houston Space Center and Cape Kennedy—maybe they can go to WV to those nice flat mountain top removal sites?).

      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tropical-storm-harvey-shutters-nasas-johnson-space-center-through-labor-day/

      • Abel Adamski Says:

        How about recently laying off 9% of his work force (over 3000 people)?
        DOG, context please. How many has he added to the workforce this year, 14,000.
        Without Tesla EV’s would be dead in the water and Storage would be decades behind
        SpaceX is a private company.

        Killing off the excellent because it is not perfect is not a viable solution going forward

        • dumboldguy Says:

          Context, indeed.

          “Without Tesla EV’s would be dead in the water”
          Really? Taken in context. there were only ~200,000 EV’s sold in the US last year, and only ~1/4 were made by Tesla—-dozens of other companies are making EV’s worldwide, and although Musk is the best publicity hound, the others are succeeding because they fill a growing desire in the part of the public. Tesla helped, but is not the be-all and end-all of EV’s

          “Storage would be decades behind”.
          Decades? Plural, as in 20 or 30 years? Really? Again Musk helped and has been a leader, but he is not alone. The participation of other companies and the development of better battery technologies will make or break the storage issue.

          “SpaceX is a private company”. Your point? And who owns it? I have no problem with someone providing cheap boosters for near-Earth space endeavors, but Musk and his BFR and his Mars Madness are a distraction—now The Orange Menace is talking about putting men on the moon and Mars and creating a “Space Force”.

          And adding 14,000 or laying off 3,000 is peanuts in the context of national job figures. What’s more important is whether Tesla will ever meet production targets and make a profit—-until that happens, musk and Tesla are not “the (not perfect) excellent”. What IS a “viable solution going forward” is that Musk knock off the irrelevancies and narcissistic BS and make his EV and battery businesses succeed—-that is what I wish for him.

  3. Gingerbaker Says:

    “What are the fake news and the issues? How about the straw man issue of people wanting the company to die and (perhaps, maybe) sabotaging it from the inside? ”

    Straw man issue? That employee had admitted he did sabotage, admitted he lied to the media about Tesla not meeting performance goals, and admitted that he secretly smuggled out gigabytes of proprietary company data to “outside entities”.

    There is nothing “perhaps” or “maybe” or “straw man” of “fake news” about that.

    Nor is there anything off-base about an employer warning his employees in an intra-company e-mail to be vigilant about industrial espionage after an employee is caught red-handed doing exactly that.

    Nor is there any controversy over whether there are very powerful monied interests aligned against renewable energy in general or Tesla in particular. Must I remind you, again, that the Koch brothers actually admitted in public they would be waging a campaign against renewable energy and electric cars less than one year ago? That Tesla is forcing auto manufacturers to spend many billions of dollars on product lines they would be quite happy never to hear of again. That Tesla is by a wide margin the most highly shorted stock in the world? Why, one might come to the conclusion that somebody out there j-u-u-u-u-st might want them to fail.

    As far as your Gish gallop of supposed other “real issues” with Tesla – none of them are unusual to all companies who have grown so fast. There is no “there” there, which is why their stock still soars and will keep going up.

    The rest of your laundry list of Musk projects is irrelevant to this case. Except, I gotta say, as a psychological testament to some rather bizarre and vehement obsessions you have about the space program and your secret romantic interest – Elon Musk.

    C’mon, admit it, DOG. You got some bro-crush vibe going on for the Spaceman. Time to come out of the closet. ;>D

    • dumboldguy Says:

      “,,,,, your secret romantic interest – Elon Musk. C’mon, admit it, DOG. You got some bro-crush vibe going on for the Spaceman. Time to come out of the closet. ;>D”

      LOL—look at GB, playing at psychology and trying to project HIS “bro-crush” on me. Nice try, but anyone who has been following GB’s comments and mine on Musk knows the truth—-that I give Musk credit for his work with electric cars and batteries but disparage his narcissistic BS re” tunnels and Mars. GB, on the other hand, thinks Musk can do NO wrong, and cheers his every move.

      Anyone who is following the issue knows that Musk is now engaging in an ugly exchange with the “spy” similar to Drumpf’s twitter wars—why don’t we let the court case proceed until all the FACTS come out and both sides are fully exposed. (Or will Musk “pull a Trump” and settle?).

      “As far as your Gish gallop of supposed other “real issues” with Tesla – none of them are unusual to all companies who have grown so fast. There is no “there” there, which is why their stock still soars and will keep going up”.

      And will until it crashes and all the suckers are left holding the bag. Again, let’s wait and see—-can Musk turn a profit? Can he meet production targets? Time will tell (and I DO wish his car and battery business success—it’s his tunnels and Mars BS that infuriate me).

      And can GB explain what “…rather bizarre and vehement obsessions I have about the space program”? Does GB actually think that there is any real need for manned space exploration? Or much space exploration of ANY kind beyond earth observation with unmanned satellites? The whole “space is the new frontier” scam is just marketing BS designed to keep the aerospace industry afloat and sucking up assets that should be devoted to solving the problems here on earth. WTF does it matter of we discover some evidence of life on Mars or in some faraway place that we’ll never visit when we face the possible extinction of most life forms on our home planet? What’s “bizarre” is the inability of otherwise intelligent people to grasp that.

      So, GB, keep “loving” Musk and following him like some Pied Piper. Encourage the digging of useless tunnels and colonizng Mars. JFC!

      • Gingerbaker Says:

        I have criticized Elon Musk when I thought he was off-target quite a bit at cleantechnica and electrek. I thought he was too obsessed with the gull-wing doors on the Model X and that caused its introduction to be delayed by at least half a year.

        I criticized the lack of an instrument cluster or HUD on the Model 3.

        I believe I criticized his fighting unionization plans at the GF.

        I criticized his flamethrower.

        But what I haven’t done is talk shit about him or Tesla. The success of that company is too important to the world.

        And, yeah, I support the space program. I support manned space missions. I support the effort to colonize the moon and Mars. I support the benefits of space exploration on nascent technologies and sciences, the excitement it brings to our lives and the imaginations of budding young scientists.

        I support all peaceful pure research and think we should spend way more on it, not only as a benefit to health and progress but also because it is really really good at stimulating the economy and education system in precisely the way we need.

        I believe we can easily afford the space program AND scientific research AND building ourselves a new RE system. We simply have to stop wasting gigantic sums of money on war, the military, bank bailouts, corruption etc.

        • dumboldguy Says:

          “The success of that company (Tesla) is too important to the world”. Really? IMO, the success of all the OTHER EV manufacturers is more important “to the world”—you know, that “world” beyond our shores where so many of them are located and so many of the world’s people live? Do you even know how many companies make EV’s? And that they are more practical and affordable than the expensive toys Tesla makes for the well off?

          If Yoda were here, he would say of you,”The bright-sidedness is strong is this one”. There is no sense even attempting to argue the science or economics or morality with someone who “supports the space program. manned space missions. the effort to colonize the moon and Mars, and the benefits of space exploration on nascent technologies and sciences”—-you have accepted the brainwashing without much analysis.

          As far as “the excitement it brings to our lives and the imaginations of budding young scientists”, there are many exciting alternatives to sitting passively in the dark in the middle of the night as we all did watching the first man on the moon bobble his lines, and the “budding young scientists” whose imaginations we need to stimulate are needed in fields that relate to he existential threat we face on this planet RIGHT NOW—-CAGW.

          (But I AM very pleased to hear that you DID criticize his flamethrower and gull wing doors on the X!) [:-)

          I support all peaceful pure research and think we should spend way more on it, not only as a benefit to health and progress but also because it is really really good at stimulating the economy and education system in precisely the way we need.

          I believe we can easily afford the space program AND scientific research AND building ourselves a new RE system. We simply have to stop wasting gigantic sums of money on war, the military, bank bailouts, corruption etc.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            OOOPS—-I had copied your message to reply to parts of it and forgot to delete the last two paragraphs—-I have little quarrel with what you said there.

        • MorinMoss Says:

          “The success of that company is too important to the world”

          I would say instead that the success of that company’s MISSION is too important, not the company itself.
          You can have all the best intentions in the world but be doomed by poor execution and inability to adapt to shifts in markets and economies.

          • Gingerbaker Says:

            Fair enough. But in my defense it seems to me that Tesla is, for now at least, the only company with that mission that can accomplish its goals.

            If they fail, how long would we wait to see a real effort, by any car company of significance, to get out of the ICE business?

          • MorinMoss Says:

            @Gingerbaker
            “If they fail, how long would we wait to see a real effort, by any car company of significance, to get out of the ICE business”

            A few years ago, I may have had the same worries but nowadays I’m only worried about the pace at which EVs become available.

            Nissan and Renault are years into the game, Jaguar has a fine-looking, upscale crossover that has respectable off-road capability and Dieselgate, which is still ongoing and ensnaring a growing number of automakers and executives, has essentially forced the Germans to move beyond prototypes and get with the program of vehicle electrification.
            Despite the awkward name, I fully expect the Porsche Taycan, formerly the Mission E, to change the perception of a lot of ICE-or-diehards.

            And then there’s China. Their electric buses are as good as anyone’s and sold internationally and it’s only a matter of time before their cars meet international standards.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Take a look at the EV numbers for 2017—–about 1 in 10 is made by Tesla and the others are ramping up, particularly in China. If Tesla disappeared, it wouldn’t matter much—-kind of like Tesla laying off near 10% of its work force, which isn’t going to affect production.

            https://insideevs.com/plug-in-electric-car-sales-ranked-by-oem-for-2017/

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Forgot to say that a click on the green “sales scorecard” button will give 2018 stats and stats for years before 2017,

            https://insideevs.com/plug-in-electric-car-sales-ranked-by-oem-for-2017/

  4. Jean Swan Says:

    Time to re issue the movie “Who Killed the Electric Car”


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