Yeah, I got Issues about Climate Change.. Turns out a Lot of People do..

April 7, 2018

What about it?

Reuters:

NEW YORK (Thomson Reuters Foundation) – Depression and anxiety afflict Americans who are concerned with the fate of the environment, according to a study of the mental health effects of climate change.

Most hard-hit are women and people with low incomes who worry about the planet’s long-term health, said the study published this week in the journal Global Environmental Change.

Symptoms include restless nights, feelings of loneliness and lethargy.

“Climate change is a persistent global stressor,” said Sabrina Helm, lead author of the paper and professor of family and consumer sciences at the University of Arizona.

Risks to mental health from climate change are a “creeping development,” she told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.

Due to climate change, scientists predict sea levels are on track to surge as temperatures rise, posing threats such as deadly heat, extreme weather and land swallowed by rising water.

World leaders mobilized to curb man-made greenhouse gas emissions to fight global warming in a 2015 agreement, although the United States has since said it would withdraw from the landmark deal.

Signs of depression do not appear in people concerned about climate change’s risks to humanity but do appear in people worried about its impact on other species, plants and nature overall, the research said.

The study pulled from 342 online surveys of respondents whose views broadly reflect the wider U.S. population, it said.

 

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20 Responses to “Yeah, I got Issues about Climate Change.. Turns out a Lot of People do..”

  1. dumboldguy Says:

    “Signs of depression do not appear in people concerned about climate change’s risks to humanity but do appear in people worried about its impact on other species, plants and nature overall, the research said”.

    Describes my situation fairly well. However, the political situation with Trump and the Repugnants trampling all semblance of sanity, decency, and morality poses specific “risks” to humanity that parallel and amplify the risks to the biosphere—-double whammy.

    • Glenn Parry Says:

      As if the criminality, arrogance and lawlessness of the last group of criminals in Washington were a bunch of saints. I assure you I have rested much easier in the last 2 years than in the whole of the previous 8.

      To everyone who believes that man can alter climate change, I can give you a really good deal on the Golden Gate Bridge.

      • dumboldguy Says:

        Shake the tree and another deluded monkey falls out. A classic demonstration of the second part of the “double whammy” I mentioned. Anyone who has “rested much easier in the last two years” lives in fantasyland.

      • Sir Charles Says:

        Do you own the Golden Gate Bridge, Glenn?

      • leslie graham Says:

        “To everyone who believes that man can alter climate change”

        Not sure that every climate scientist and every scientific institute on the planet together with everyone who understands basic schoolboy level physics would be interested in buying a bridge.

        I keep forgetting that there are still a few deluded nutjobs out there who are too afraid to accept basic observable reality.
        Perhaps you would care to explain to all these billions of people just how we can increase the volume of a known heat-trapping gas by 44% and that absolutely nothing will happen?

        What an bizarre world you must live in.

        • sailrick Says:

          “I keep forgetting that there are still a few deluded nutjobs out there who are too afraid to accept basic observable reality.”

          Unfortunately, there are more than a few, like most of the GOP poliiticians

  2. indy222 Says:

    Yeah; I get this. We did it to ourselves, so there’s some primal sense of justice towards ourselves…. but fellow species who are innocent. That’s where it gets to anyone who has a conscience. Apparently not Glenn.

  3. redskylite Says:

    An interesting study and findings. It is easy to become depressed and experience those symptoms mentioned, when you consider the enormity and complexity of what is happening.

    Many people don’t want to discuss or acknowledge the problem at all, and that can lead to isolation and loneliness, there are not many people you can really open up to on the subject.

    The only thing that keeps me going, is reading energy news and the progress that is being made towards sustainable non-carbon technologies, and that many countries are making very serious progress. What would lift my spirits is to see the monthly Trends in Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide decline, at the age of 70 I realize there is very little chance of seeing that.

    I’m hopefully living through another paradigm shift in industrialisation and energy creation; what lifts me out of depression is that an indisputable fact is many young people accept “Climate Change” and when all the silly old bigots and Trumpeteers have faded away the future may well be brighter. I live in hope, hope for my young son, his family and all the other creatures that we coexist with.

    • redskylite Says:

      An example of positive news from a country I don’t hear too much about. .

      Dramatic growth in variable renewable power market share in Uruguay shows what is possible with strong cross-border interconnection and a flexible grid.

      Wind and solar power are variable, and as such imply an additional challenge for grid operators used to dealing with variable electricity demand.

      The global think-tank, the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA), recently highlighted key actions that grid operators can take to smooth the integration of high levels of variable renewables such as wind and solar.

      Those steps included incentivising flexible back-up generation, to balance the variability of wind power, and using cross-border interconnection to export generation surpluses, when wind and solar power are fully available.

      Uruguay has both excellent flexible hydropower, and good interconnection into Argentina and Brazil, contributing to the country’s extraordinary growth in wind and solar market share.

      http://energyandcarbon.com/uruguay-shows-flexible-grid-can-propel-renewables-growth/

      • sailrick Says:

        “Wind and solar power are variable, and as such imply an additional challenge for grid operators used to dealing with variable electricity demand”

        One answer is solar thermal power plants with molten salt heat storage – base load power on a large scale, Day and Night.

        According to the NREL, the capacity factor of these plants can range from 45% to 70%, depending on the type used. Power Tower, or Solar Trough. That compares well with nuclear at about 90%, and coal at maybe 80%. I figure Arizona alone has potential for solar thermal equivalent to over 100 nuclear power plants of 1 GW generating capacity.

        One study showed that an area 42 miles by 42 miles filled with heat storage equipped solar thermal could produce as much electricity as all the coal fired plants in America.
        And the base load power from these solar plants is more flexible than that from nuclear or coal plants, so it can follow the demand load bette

        Here is the potential of some states, according to a NREL study. These figures assume using less than 1% of the available and suitable land.

        NREL defines
        premium solar resource as over 7 kWh/square meter
        excellent s 6.5-7 kWh/square meter
        good as 6-6.5 kWh/square meter

        And here’s Arizona’ potential for CSP

        Premium 172 GW 376,912 GWh
        Excellent 89 GW 176,496 GWh
        Good 23 GW 41,897 GWh
        Total 285 GW 595,305 GWh

        California

        Premium 61.6 GW 134,942 GWh
        Excellent 14.8 GW 29,189 GWh
        Good 21.7 GW 38,093 GWh
        Total 98.1 GW 202,224 GWh

        Nevada

        Premium 81.9 GW
        Excellent 46.1 GW
        Good 37.6 GW
        Total 165.8 GW

        New Mexico

        Premium 94.1 GW
        Excellent 51.9 GW
        Good 73.3 GW
        Total 219.4 GW

        Utah

        Premium 28.9 GW 63,384 GWh
        Excellent 24.9 GW 47,661 GWh
        Good 21.2 GW 37,168 GWh
        Total 74.3 GW 148,213 GWh

        Indian Lands ( Hopi and Navaho reservations)

        Premium 48 GW 105,337 GWh
        Excellent 9 GW 18,039 GWh
        Good 4.6 GW 8,209 GWh
        Total 61.9 GW 131,585 GWh

        Texas

        Premium 38.8 GW
        Excellent 50.7 GW
        Good 38.2 GW
        Total 127 GW

        Oregon

        Excellent 1.7 GW
        Good 10.5 GW
        Total 12.3 GW

        Colorado

        Premium 2.5 GW
        Excellent 13.1 GW
        Good 22.5 GW
        Total 38.2 GW

        Idaho

        Good 4.8 GW

        Kansas

        Excellent 2 GW
        Good 4.7 GW
        Total 6.7 GW

    • redskylite Says:

      More positive news to blow away those cobwebs of dire depression. So cheer up.

      The world installed a record 98 gigawatts of new solar capacity, far more than the net additions of any other technology — renewable, fossil fuel or nuclear.

      https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180405093247.htm

      • dumboldguy Says:

        Cheer up? A few little bright spots here and there do not make for sunny skies all over the world.

        The numbers to focus on are the totals, not how much new RE is installed each year. Much of the RE is being used to increase generating capacity, not replace existing fossil fuel generation. Coal is not being phased out rapidly enough, and much of it is being replaced with natural gas. Little is being done to cut fossil fuel use in aviation, ocean shipping, or land transport. Carbon emissions are simply not going down fast enough to avoid what looks like an overshoot of the 2 degree rise that spells disaster in so many ways.

        It’s hard, and discouraging, but looking at the numbers with an unbiased eye gives little cause for cheer.

  4. pendantry Says:

    Reblogged this on Wibble and commented:
    I can sympathise with this.
    (Note: the comment thread is revealing, too.)

  5. sailingtranquilitybay.com Says:

    I don’t understand how anyone that acknowledges the information about our anthropogenic destruction can’t feel depressed. Since learning that animal agriculture contributes more GHGs toward this destruction than all of the transportation sector combined, my wife and I have changed to a whole foods plant based diet. In half a year it has been hugely beneficial to our health, the environment, and of course — our share of tortured and brutally slaughtered sentient beings (70 billion of them) that were born into this nightmare. What makes me most depressed is how unwilling people are to let the light shine in on that extremely dark part of our global impact.

    ANIMAL AGRICULTURE = BIGGER IMPACT THAN TRANSPORTATION. Make the connection.

    http://www.cowspiracy.com/infographic

  6. otter17 Says:

    In college studies when first diving into the subject, I assumed that it would be obvious to everyone what needed to be done. I could contribute in my own way with technical capability to produce the needed changes along with most everyone around me working towards that same goal. The gut punch was learning a few years later the depths of human denial and public disinterest in a global existential threat.

    What keeps me going is that there might (keyword, might) be some method to filter the excess CO2 from the atmosphere and sequester it at large scale. We will very likely overshoot our 2C emissions budget, so it is a choice between either rolling out this technology or one of the risky sunlight management geoengineering processes. One hopes that emissions reductions coupled with CO2 sequestration can get the job done without the wildcard of sunlight management. We might get too bogged down in adaptation efforts, wars, economic troubles, etc, to take that path, though.


  7. If we could create carbon neutral, pollution free energy we would still destroy all the habitat, land and sea. The sooner we crash the better.


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