“Timed Hacks and Drops”: Timothy Snyder on Trump, Russia, a Year Later

December 4, 2017

Part one of this indispensable wrap above.
If you’re rushed, just go right to 5:22.

Timothy Snyder is a historian at Yale University, specializing in eastern Europe, totalitarianism, and the Holocaust. His books have received widespread acclaim. His most recent book, “On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century,” explores the everyday ways a citizens can resist the authoritarianism of today. He is also the author of “Black Earth: The Holocaust as History and Warning” and, forthcoming in April, “The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America.”

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12 Responses to ““Timed Hacks and Drops”: Timothy Snyder on Trump, Russia, a Year Later”

  1. neilrieck Says:

    I think you are seeing conspiracies where only stupidity exists. For example, it is easier to believe “the Russians did it” then believe “DNC insiders” (like Debbie Wasserman Schultz) decided the DNC wasn’t going to allow “outsider Sanders” takeover the Democratic Primary in the same way that “outsider Trump” took over the Republican Primary.

    On top of that, many Americans look at “Russia on Facebook” as the invasion of a foreign country into an American company. First off, Facebook is a multinational company which claims to have 2 billion accounts. If this is true then Facebook accounts are approximately 6 times greater than the population of the USA. But what about new US laws that allow individuals, companies, and I am assuming foreign countries to donate to, then hide behind, super PACs?

    On a related note, people should watch the “60 Minutes” program about Brad Parscale. He’s the guy who was appointed digital director of the Trump campaign; he contracted Facebook to get help on how to target ads at Americans; apparently he had Facebook employees sitting in his office helping him do this. Let’s face it, Trump got elected because hist people ran a better campaign.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/how-facebook-ads-helped-elect-trump/

    If the Russians helped in any way I certain it was minimal. No election machines got hacked and no American was forced to vote for Trump at gun point. Conspiracy theorists are chasing a red herring.

    • Gingerbaker Says:

      “I think you are seeing conspiracies where only stupidity exists”

      We have proof a conspiracy took place, what the heck are you going on about? Conspiracies happen thousands of times a day. Just like stupidity.

      Candidate Trump contacting Russians before the election is almost certainly treason. Smell the coffee.

    • greenman3610 Says:

      that Russia worked to elect Trump is not subject to question at this point, it is fact.
      whether it actually worked and contributed materially to the win has not been unambiguously proven, but more and more evidence keeps coming to light each week. i.e. Trump teams multiple lies that there were “no Russian contacts”, when now we know there were more than 50 and counting.
      For the President elect’s chief advisor, Jarad Kushner, to ask for a private secure communication link to the Kremlin – in the Russian embassy(!) is clearly abnormal, and has not been explained (among many other things).
      Gen Flynn’s testimony will be enlightening, as he probably knows much of the big picture.
      There are also ongoing investigations into voting machine hacks, many of which raise suspicion.
      http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55603/russia-hack-voting-totals/

  2. botterd Says:

    A lot of elaboration and speculation all based on no verifiable evidence. More and more details get woven into an all consuming narrative that once established incorporates every new event and person into the story, all without asking for confirmation and basic tests. Concluding that of all countries in the world, it is the USA that has lost its sovereignty (ignoring all the other candidates whose history has been changed by US interference) and that Russia now controls the executive through its “cyber-victory” is, for wont of a stronger word, i-n-s-a-n-i-t-y. The worst example of conspiracy-thinking that one could summon.

  3. Gingerbaker Says:

    “A lot of elaboration and speculation all based on no verifiable evidence.”

    I take it you ain’t exactly glued to the news.

    P.s. – it ain’t about whether the U.S. “has lost its sovereignty” or whether “Russia now controls the executive”. What script are you reading from?


  4. I’m sorry, but I find it hard to shed a tear for the US “losing it’s sovereignty”. If it wasn’t for the fact Russias’ meddling in the election is a disaster for the global environment, I’d be inclined to say, what goes around, comes around!

    • greenman3610 Says:

      it is a false equivalence
      to equate the US democracy, however flawed, with the lawless kleptocracy in Russia, which Putin seeks to recreate here.
      Indeed, it is my contention that the global effort to combat climate change is one of the primary drivers behind Russia’s bold aggression. I believe the “climate gate” events were a road test for what we say in 2016.


      • I’m sorry Peter, but I disagree. I’m not equating US democracy with Russian cleptocracy, merely pointing out the hand the US has played influencing other sovereign states political affairs, often resulting in rather nasty, murderous outcomes. The list is long and not pretty. From the middle east, to Latin America, to Indochina, the US has pursued it’s perceived interests without too much concern for collateral damage!


  5. Relevance
    https://robertscribbler.com/2017/11/07/russian-collusion-kushner-associated-corp-linked-to-oil-giant-gazprom-in-gaining-monetary-leverage-over-facebook-and-twitter/

    Russian Collusion: Kushner-Associated Corp Linked to Oil Giant Gazprom in Gaining Monetary Leverage Over Facebook and Twitter
    And it is here that we come, at last, to new allegations based on a German news dump known as the Paradise Papers. The dump, which includes a mass of documents describing the shady dealings involved in the world’s off-shore tax havens, has created a media firestorm. It has also revealed yet more ties between top Trump campaign and administration officials and Russia. Ties related to increasing evidence of Trump-Russia linked attempts to influence U.S. media, corporations and their holders during the period leading up to and including the 2016 election.

    Who is Yuri Milner? According to The Guardian:

    Milner once advised the Russian government on technology through a presidential commission chaired by Dmitry Medvedev, the former president and current prime minister. Now based in California’s Silicon Valley, Milner has invested $7bn in more than 30 online companies including Airbnb, Spotify and the Chinese retailers Alibaba and JD.com (emphasis added).

    First, the social media investments in Twitter and Facebook amounted to a roughly 10 percent stake in these giants. Though not controlling stakes, such a high level of investment typically buys a considerable amount of influence through financial leverage. In addition, it is well established at this time that Russian agents produced numerous bot accounts and ads through these media giants during election time. With at least 126 million people being reached by Russian based misinformation from Facebook alone.

    Now the big spin and whitewash to deflect


  6. Now to oligarchy and fascism
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism/Intellectual-origins

    Mussolini and Hitler did not invent fascist ideology. Indeed, fascism was neither a 20th-century creation nor a peculiarly Italian or German one. Originating in the 19th century, fascist ideas appeared in the works of writers from France as well as Austria, Germany, and Italy, including political theorists such as Theodor Fritsch, Paul Anton de Lagarde, Julius Langbehn, Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels, Joseph de Maistre, Charles Maurras, and Georges Sorel; scientists and philosophers such as Johann Gottlieb Fichte, Giovanni Gentile, Gustave Le Bon, Friedrich Nietzsche, Vilfredo Pareto, Karl Vogt, and Ernst Haeckel; historians and social thinkers such as Joseph-Arthur, comte de Gobineau, Hippolyte Taine, and Heinrich von Treitschke; artists, writers, and journalists such as Gabriele D’Annunzio, Richard Wagner, Édouard Drumont, Maurice Barrès, and Guido von List; and conservative politicians such as Otto Böckel and Adolf Stoecker.

    Many fascist ideas derived from the reactionary backlash to the progressive revolutions of 1789, 1830, 1848, and 1871 and to the secular liberalism and social radicalism that accompanied these upheavals. De Maistre condemned the 18th-century Enlightenment for having subverted the dominance of traditional religion and traditional elites and paid homage to the public executioner as the protector of a divinely sanctioned social hierarchy. Taine lamented the rise to power of the masses, whom he suggested were at a lower stage of biological evolution than aristocrats. Le Bon wrote a primer on how to divert the barbarism of the masses from revolution to reaction. Barrès fused ethnic rootedness with authoritarian nationalism and contended that too much civilization led to decadence and that hatred and violence were energizing remedies.

    German populist politicians and writers such as Stoecker, Böckel, and Fritsch extolled the idea of racially pure peasants close to the soil who would one day follow a charismatic leader able to intuit the Volk soul without benefit of elections. Anti-Semitism was a staple in the work of Drumont, Maurras, Lagarde, Langbehn, and a host of other best-selling authors. Britain’s Houston Stewart Chamberlain preached Aryan racism, and many of the anti-Semitic ideas espoused by Carl Lueger’s Christian Social Party and Georg von Schönerer’s Pan-German movement in Austria were later adopted by Hitler.
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    Racial Darwinists such as Vogt, Haeckel, Treitschke, Langbehn, Lagarde, and Chamberlain glorified the survival of the fittest, scolded humanitarians for attempting to protect the racially unfit, and rejected the idea of social equality (“Equality is death, hierarchy is life,” wrote Langbehn). Chamberlain saw no reason to give inferior races equal rights. Treitschke raged against democracy, socialism, and feminism (all of which he attributed to Jews), insisted that might made right, and praised warrior imperialism (“Brave peoples expand, cowardly peoples perish”). Lagarde said of the Slavs that “the sooner they perish the better it will be for us and them,” and he called for the extermination of the Jews—a sentiment that was shared by his contemporary Langbehn. As John Weiss remarked of Lagarde and Langbehn, “The two most influential and popular intellectuals of late nineteenth century Germany were indistinguishable from Nazi ideologists.” Weiss also noted that “the press and popular magazines of Germany and Central Europe had fed a steady diet of racial nationalism to the public since the last quarter of the nineteenth century, and anti-Semitic stereotypes were nothing if not commonplace in German mass culture

    continuing


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