Trailer: Only the Brave

October 9, 2017

It’s insensitive to talk about climate change right now. Relax, let’s go to a movie.

oh.

Wiki:

The Yarnell Hill Fire was a wildfire near Yarnell, Arizona, ignited by lightning on June 28, 2013. On June 30, it overran and killed 19 City of Prescott firefighters, members of the Granite Mountain Hotshots. It was the deadliest U.S. wildfire since the 1991 East Bay Hills fire, which killed 25 people; the deadliest wildland fire for U.S. firefighters since the 1933 Griffith Park Fire, which killed 29; and the deadliest incident of any kind for U.S. firefighters since the September 11, 2001, attacks, which killed 343. It is the sixth-deadliest American firefighter disaster overall and the deadliest wildfire ever in Arizona.[2]

Below, Santa Rosa California, October 2017.

Washington Post:

SANTA ROSA, Calif. — Fires pushed by warm winds and fueled by dry ground swept through California wine country Monday, killing at least 10 people, injuring numerous others and torching more than 1,500 homes and businesses.

State fire officials warned that the conditions, particularly winds that at times exceeded 50 miles per hour, would likely exacerbate the fires in the days ahead. At least 14 separate blazes burned in eight Northern California counties, prompting evacuations of more than 20,000 frightened residents, including patients in threatened hospitals.

“This is really serious; it’s moving fast,” Gov. Jerry Brown (D) said during a news conference in which he declared an emergency in three counties. “The heat, the lack of humidity and the winds are all driving a very dangerous situation and making it worse. It’s not under control by any means. But we’re on it in the best way we know how.”

 

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9 Responses to “Trailer: Only the Brave”

  1. Jerry Falwel Says:

    Those fires and the present fires were tragedies The firefighters and people who died in a perfect world should not have died yet they did. If one actually wants to learn something from those experiences it helps to look at the causes and what can be done to prevent deaths in the future.

    The fire which killed those firefighters was burning upslope due to a wind change, the service had a lot of rule changes and procedures changes come out of that fire to correct procedures which led to the firefighters being sent in harms way. The Oakland fire was caused by a drought and homes built in an area with thousands of highly inflammable trees and a brush, It was basically a firetrap waiting to happen. Lessons were learned in that fire as well, one of which is clear brush and trees from around your home. The current fires in California cannot be naturally caused since we have had no extensive thunderstorm activity. they appear to be all man caused whether by accident or not is unknown at this point. All the homes burnt were ignoring the rules of the Oakland fire, clear out the brush and trees from around your home if you live in the countryside.

    Climate change has zero to do with any of those fires.


    • This is called a “single cause” fallacy – that every event has a single cause. The common application of the fallacy is that if you can find any other causal factor to the event, that disproves all other causal factors, allowing them to be dismissed.

    • ubrew12 Says:

      quote from linked article: “How did a wet Western winter lead to a sky-choking summer? The answer lies in the summer’s record-breaking heat, say wildfire experts. Days of near-100F… temperatures cooked the Mountain West… “This will become an important year for [anecdotes about] the importance of temperature. Despite the fact that these forests were really soaked down this winter and spring, these heat waves have dried things out enough to promote really large fires,” says Park Williams, a research scientist…
      The same team of researchers also found that the area of annual burned forest in the Pacific Northwest has increased by nearly 5000%… since the early 1970s.”
      https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/09/why-is-2017-so-bad-for-wildfires-climate-change/539130/

    • Gingerbaker Says:

      Hmmm…

      Methinks “Jerry Falwel” shares a literary voice very reminiscent of one of the trolls recently banned here.


      • Marginalizing/silencing dissent by any means and excuse possible, the hallmark of far-left ideology. Thou shalt not question thy AGW orthodoxy, lest ye be branded a heretic worthy of burning at the stake.

        • Gingerbaker Says:

          You moron, nobody is abridging anyone else’s rights by banning trolls on a blog. Is there any thought process you can not manage to mangle?

        • Torsten Says:

          If that were true, you’d have been banned long ago. My goodness, but you are a dimwitted soul.


        • If Peter is:
          a) smart (which I think his achievements demonstrate) and
          b) believes in silencing dissent (which you think he does)
          then clearly he will be silencing the smart and effective dissenters, while leaving the inept and ineffective ones to post here, thus undermining their own side.


          • Y’all’s beef is with commenter “Gingerbaker” who said, and I quote “one of the trolls recently banned here,” comparing that individual to commenter “Jerry Falwel,” who is clearly offering a dissenting view.

            It is almost as though you fellows have some kind of reading comprehension problem. Or some kind of basic comprehension problem.


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