Racism. Climate Denial. Sexual Harassment. Different Expressions, Same Gene.

July 7, 2017

In the current national values clarification exercise, notable evil-doers helpfully confirming my long-time correlation between climate denial and racism. (not even trying to be subtle anymore)

And now, serial sexual harrassment/bullying as well. To the list that includes Limbaugh, Ailes, O’Reilly, Bannon, and Trump, now add Charles Payne.

Different expressions, same gene.


Fox Business Network has suspended longtime host Charles Payne during an investigation into allegations of “professional misconduct,” a spokesperson said.

The “Making Money” host was sidelined Thursday night after the Los Angeles Times first reported allegations of sexual harassment against him, citing two sources familiar a complaint made by a female political analyst.

The Los Angeles Times did not name Payne’s accuser because she alleges that she was coerced into a sexual relationship under the threat of reprisals. The newspaper reported that the woman said she believes she was blacklisted as a guest on Fox Business Network and Fox News when she ended their affair in 2015 and told network executives.

Both Payne and the woman are married.

I believe the women. But, just to be Fair and Balanced, here’s Philly.com:

Fox Business anchor Charles Payne is denying allegations that he sexually harassed a female political analyst after ending an extramarital affair with him.

“That is an ugly lie I vehemently deny to my core. There is a mountain of proof that also proves its a lie,” Payne said as part of a series of Tweets sent out on Friday morning.




17 Responses to “Racism. Climate Denial. Sexual Harassment. Different Expressions, Same Gene.”

  1. dumboldguy Says:

    No interest in this post? Or do we all agree that the connections have become so self-evident that it’s not worth commenting on? Like gravity?

    Different expressions, same gene indeed. The Wetilko lives, and The Orange Horror is its latest and perhaps most powerful expression.

    PS New book out about how the Nazis used American racism, genocide of Native Americans, and Jim Crow institutions in the USA as a model for how to solve their “Jewish problem”. The way things are going, the GOP will soon start painting swastikas on the side of the elephant.

    • redskylite Says:

      A few people who dispute AGW who I’ve clashed pens with certainly appear to be strong “Racists”, not many people admit to sexual misconduct however, difficult to tell. Not met any racist AGW’ers although I’m sure a few exist. As a jurist many years ago we (the jury) had to decide on the word of a woman vs. a word of a man (and a load of circumstantial evidence). Not easy to decide, and I would not want to be put in the same uncomfortable position again.

      Sexual harassment charges were brought against the ex-head of the IPPC (Rajendra Kumar Pachauri) he claims he was framed and had to step down, again need a witness, judge and jury to decide.

      Why don’t people admit to sexual indiscretions/misconduct ? – maybe they do not want to destroy their lives and that of their close ones. Why would women want to bring false accusations ? – maybe a few motivations. Difficult subject.

  2. Tom Bates Says:

    Wow, you folks are really delusional. I suggest getting mental health treatment from a professional tommorrow, not the day after.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      Yes, Bates definitely has the gene. Here he is, defending sexual harassers, and we already know he’s a climate denier. Does anyone recall him displaying any any overt racism here? I’m sure he hits the trifecta and IS a racist as well.

      • Tom Bates Says:

        dumbboldguy, climate does not have anything to do with either your post or the blog which is talking about anything except climate. I do note that all you folks need somebody to hate which is why I recommend mental health treatment. You will feel much better about yourself if you get treatment and you might actually help save the world from the real threats to the health and wellbeing of our descendents. We need logical, mentally well people to make the tuf decisions.

        • dumboldguy Says:

          Too clueless (and stupid) to bother responding to.

        • redskylite Says:

          Tom Bates wrote “climate does not have anything to do with either your post or the blog which is talking about anything except climate.”

          Well the posts are under the title of “Climate Denial Crock of the Week”. Peter puts a lot of time and effort into these posts and is free to discuss pretty much on any topic he likes. He can have music breaks (also not climate related). Here he is highlighting a possible link between Climate Denial, Racism and sexual harassment – you are free to disagree. If you are unhappy with the content of these posts (which you appear to be), then I suggest you intercourse on blogs more to your liking, instead of insultingly refer people for psychiatric treatment. You do not seem to add much to these posts. I preferred Omnologos at least he posted interesting articles about the heat island effect (in Italian) and was relatively entertaining.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            So much for “Too clueless (and stupid) to bother responding to”. I agree with redsky’s comment, and would add a quote from a comment of mine a while back—the introduction to a long reading list of books on topics that must be understood to really understand how deal with climate change) and now the unfolding Trump Disaster. The forces of evil that are behind AGW denial are also behind racism, sexual harassment, and greedy exploitation of human and natural resources. The Wetiko lives, and its most dangerous manifestation is now embodied by the Republican Party and the hopelessly lost Leader of the Free World and his minions. Bates is too freaking stupid to understand ANY of this and is therefore about as useful to this discussion as a fifth leg or tits on a bull.

            “In this complicated modern world, we all too often fall into what can be called “silo thinking”, which term derives from the vertical storage design of the silo—pile a lot of stuff up on a small base. It is used mainly in business to describe how different parts or departments of a business are too busy looking up at the world from inside the “silos” of their narrow specialties, and not sharing info and ideas that would help the whole business be more successful.

            IMO, AGW, climate change, and mankind’s efforts to mitigate it (as well as why it happened) are part of a very complicated “web” of interactions that require an understanding of many fields—politics, history, sociology, economics, psychology, neuroscience, all areas of science, and a fair amount of math. Anyone who doesn’t seek understanding in all those fields is going to be looking up out of the silo and not seeing much. Anyone who does study widely is ultimately going to be standing on top of a very broad and tall silo, will be able to see into others, and will be able to make the interconnections necessary to really understand AGW in all its “glory”. 

            PS A couple of good new books have come out: Requiem for the American Dream by Noam Chomsky (an expansion of the excellent documentary by that name). and No Is Not Enough: Resisting Trumps’ Shock Politics and Winning the World We Need by Naomi Klein. Like Dark Money and Merchants of Doubt, they talk about the REAL worry about AGW and why we are destroying the planet, which is NOT the science but simply human inadequacy.

    • redskylite Says:

      So now you can no longer point to UAH’s mistaken conclusions regarding atmospheric temperatures you want to send us consensus types to mental institutions. You do realize this is a Soviet Union tactic used extensively in that USSR era.

      Now we see you in true colours comrade Bates.

      “In Stalin’s time, Russian political prisoners actually wanted to be sent to a mental hospital instead of the camps, because once you recanted and agreed with the diagnosis, you might be released. But after Stalin, the next leader of the USSR, Khrushchev, wanted to build Communism without the horrors of Stalin. In Communism, criminality was supposed to disappear, and everyone was supposed to agree with the ideology. So he said that those who expressed dis-satisfaction with Communism must be mentally ill. This wasn’t just a remark, it was a directive, and special psychiatric hospitals began to spring up like mushrooms. ” from PSYCHOLOGY OF EVIL
      Understanding human evil – its causes, and characteristics.”

      and on the atmospheric satellite readings in case you are not up-to-date on RSS’s latest findings.

      “Bad news for climate contrarians – ‘the best data we have’ just got hotter

      One of the groups that has promoted satellite measurements, and downplayed climate change is from the University of Alabama at Huntsville (UAH). In the past, they have falsely claimed that the atmosphere was cooling (it wasn’t, they had made a mistake). Over the years, people have found multiple errors in their work and data, and it seems every time an error was discovered, the satellites we revised warmer and in better agreement with thermometers and climate models. To counter the UAH group, another institution began processing satellite data (Remote Sensing Systems, RSS). The RSS group has been very helpful over the years finding and correcting errors in the UAH data.

      RSS was responsible for this new publication. In updating their analysis, they find that prior to about 2000, the old and new analysis were very close to each other. However after that, the improved analysis shows a much more rapid warming.”

      “Not only that, but the improved analysis shows that the atmospheric (lower troposphere) temperatures are warming faster than the Earth’s surface. ”


      • redskylite Says:

        Climate scientists just debunked deniers’ favorite argument

        Whenever they hold one of their frequent hearings to reject and deny established climate science, congressional Republicans invariably trot out contrarian scientist John Christy, who disputes the accuracy of climate models. In doing so, Christy uses a cherry-picked, error riddled chart, but there’s a nugget of truth in his argument. Although the discrepancy isn’t nearly as large as Christy’s misleading chart suggests, atmospheric temperatures seem not to have warmed quite as fast since the turn of the century as climate model simulations anticipated they would.


      • Tom Bates Says:

        I have found a study which shows aliens will be the size of polar bears. However, that does not make that study true. The UAH website has the data, there is no sudden change in its conclusions, nor in the RSS or STAR data.

        The study you refer to is in the newspaper, why not actually read the actual study and comment on that as to why you think it is correct instead of horse manure science. Pointing to a newspaper as the source simply means you have never actually looked at either the original data or the UAH, RSS or STAR data sets all of which use the same data from the same satellites. There used to be more data sets using that data which are no longer maintained for various reasons, most of which is the funding stopped or the guy died or moved on to some latest and greatest new interest.

        All the data has to be adjusted to come out with those temperature curves, how you adjust that data is the whole point of science. What I keep in mind when reading the latest and greatest opinion, which is what these studies are, is does it match in the past and does it now. The data sets used to match the GISS data set pretty closely, that is how they actually verified their adjustments. Today GISS has been adjusted a lot, the satellite data sets no longer match, what your newspaper was referring to is an adjustment to the adjustment to match the adjusted GISS data. If you do not see that might be a problem than you have no concept of science.

        • dumboldguy Says:

          “The study you refer to is in the newspaper, why not actually read the actual study and comment on that as to why you think it is correct instead of horse manure science. Pointing to a newspaper as the source…..”

          Bates strikes out again. The study is not “in the newspaper” and the newspaper is not “the source”. The Guardian article merely DISCUSSES the study and DOES give a link to the full study—all 11 pages of it—-for anyone to ACTUALLY read (which Bates seldom does since he is a cherry-picker)

  3. redskylite Says:

    Only one out of ten for obfuscation

    “I have found a study which shows aliens will be the size of polar bears. However, that does not make that study true.”

    It is not meant to be true it is a theory from a mathematician (Dr Fergus Simpson, a mathematician at the University of Barcelona’s Institute of Cosmos Sciences), explored in a paper in 2015, it is NOT fake news, it is a THEORY on body mass in our universe.

    The study that is explained by John Abraham (a professor of thermal and fluid sciences at the University of St. Thomas School of Engineering, Minnesota) in the Guardian regards corrections made to satellite data it is no way theoretical.

    If you do not see that then you have no concept of science.

    Here is an article about the study printed in the Washington Post by Jason Samenow, if you want to pay the money and read it for yourself it is in the Journal of Climate published by the American Meteorological Society.


    • redskylite Says:

      WaPo article

      Capital Weather Gang
      Satellite temperature data, leaned on by climate change doubters, revised sharply upward


    • redskylite Says:

      $35 for 30 days access

      Temperature sounding microwave radiometers flown on polar-orbiting weather satellites provide a long-term, global-scale record of upper-atmosphere temperatures, beginning in late 1978 and continuing to the present. The focus of this paper is a lower-tropospheric temperature product constructed using measurements made by the Microwave Sounding Unit channel 2, and the Advanced Microwave Sounding Unit channel 5. The temperature weighting functions for these channels peak in the mid to upper troposphere. By using a weighted average of measurements made at different Earth incidence angles, the effective weighting function can be lowered so that it peaks in the lower troposphere. Previous versions of this dataset used general circulation model output to remove the effects of drifting local measurement time on the measured temperatures. In this paper, we present a method to optimize these adjustments using information from the satellite measurements themselves. The new method finds a global-mean land diurnal cycle that peaks later in the afternoon, leading to improved agreement between measurements made by co-orbiting satellites. The changes result in global-scale warming (global trend (70S-80N, 1979-2016) = 0.174 C/decade), ~30% larger than our previous version of the dataset (global trend, (70S-80N, 1979-2016) = 0.134C/decade). This change is primarily due to the changes in the adjustment for drifting local measurement time. The new dataset shows more warming than most similar datasets constructed from satellites or radiosonde data. However, comparisons with total column water vapor over the oceans suggest that the new dataset may not show enough warming in the tropics.

      Corresponding Author: Carl A. Mears, Remote Sensing Systems, 444 Tenth Street, Santa Rosa, CA, 95401


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