Climate Denier is Putin’s Best Bud. Why Are We Surprised?

June 5, 2017

Axis of Evil meets Axis of Derp.

The Intercept:

FRANCE’S NEW ENVIRONMENT minister, Nicolas Hulot, does not mince words when it comes to the possible consequences of Donald Trump pulling the United States out of the Paris climate accord.

Such an act, Hulot said in March, when Trump first signaled that he might withdraw from the agreement to limit carbon emissions, would be “a veritable middle finger to our children,” and could even expose the American president one day to charges of “crimes against humanity.”

Worst of all, Hulot told French television, was the danger that Trump’s action could encourage his fellow climate skeptic, Vladimir Putin, to ignore the restrictions on industrial emissions. Together the two leaders could create, Hulot warned, “an axis of mass destruction between two great powers,” with catastrophic consequences for the planet.

Hulot, who was an environmental activist before joining President Emmanuel Macron’s new government, expressed his concern after Trump ordered the E.P.A. to rescind restrictions on carbon emissions and Putin said that the melting of Arctic ice was most likely a natural process that Russia should take advantage of, not try to stop.

Putin’s remarks, which horrified Hulot, were made during a forum on the future of the Arctic, days after Trump moved ahead with his campaign promise to lift regulations on coal, oil and gas producers imposed by former President Barack Obama.

Speaking in the Russian Arctic city of Arkhangelsk, Putin told the American business channel CNBC that it was “impossible” to stop the warming of the planet, which was more likely caused by “some global cycles on Earth or even of planetary cycles,” than man-made factors like industrial emissions. Climate skeptics, like Trump and E.P.A. head Scott Pruitt, Putin added, “may not be at all silly.”

Putin has a long history of climate skepticism, which has earned him lavish praise from conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones. His views appear to have changed little since 2003, when he told an international conference that a spike in temperatures would mean Russians could “spend less on fur coats” while “agricultural specialists say our grain production will increase, and thank God for that.”

Although the Russian president surprised some observers at the Paris climate talks two years ago when he pledged to cut Russian emissions of greenhouse gas by 70 percent by 2030, a closer analysis of Russian industrial output showed that the levels Putin proposed would actually represent a 40 percent increase.

As the science writer Hannah Waters explained this week, the Paris accord is less an anti-business measure — as Trump famously claimed when he called it a hoax “created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive” — than “a giant trade agreement to accelerate the development and deployment of renewable energy.”

https://twitter.com/hannahjwaters/status/869939241354219520

https://twitter.com/hannahjwaters/status/869939570175074306

That is certainly the view taken by the new French president, who said that he tried to convince his American counterpart to stick with the pact during their meeting last week.

For background on Rohrabacher, see him in action with an actual Scientist. Brain v blowhard.

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49 Responses to “Climate Denier is Putin’s Best Bud. Why Are We Surprised?”

  1. Sir Charles Says:

    The US and Russia have turned into oligarchies. So no wonder their leaders work together to destroy the planet.

    => Trump Buys Into Putin Plan To Melt The Arctic

  2. dumboldguy Says:

    Who’s surprised? No one with an IQ in triple digits.

  3. vierotchka Says:

    Intellectual honesty demands that one should find out Putin’s actual position on that subject instead of knee-jerkingly jumping to irrational, hysterical and erroneous conclusions based on ignorance and on having poisoned one’s mind by constantly and mindlessly drinking the mendacious MSM Russophobic propaganda (which dramatically reduces IQ points from three digits to two and even only one).

    Watch in full-screen mode so as to be able to read the sub-titles.

    • ubrew12 Says:

      Should we also waste time learning about Charles Koch’s beliefs about Climate Change? I’m going to assume that anyone sitting on $500 billion in Siberian crude has an advocacy, and he’s going to prosecute that advocacy regardless of the words coming out of his mouth. Thanks to the exposure of Russia’s interference in the last election, that’s not even an assumption, anymore.

      • vierotchka Says:

        Wow, what an amazing combination of bad faith, total lack of intellectual honesty, and deplorable ignorance you’ve shown! LOL!

        • ubrew12 Says:

          M’ Kay. As long as you are displaying your intellectual honesty, tell me what Charles Koch thinks about Climate Change. Because I’m sure his honesty matches your own.

          • vierotchka Says:

            What Charles Koch thinks about Climate Change is not the topic here, and I don’t give a flea’s fart what he things about it. As to what I think about Climate Change, Peter knows full well that I am in complete agreement with him.

        • dumboldguy Says:

          That’s Vera, an “amazing combination of bad faith, total lack of intellectual honesty, and deplorable ignorance”. She’s looking in a mirror and describing herself, but she’s too dumb to recognize that.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Jealous of YOU? Of PUTIN? Of the PUSSY GRABBER? Of stupid old women who need supervision? Of smarmy little weasels that have murdered their way into positions of “leadership”? Of a mentally ill moron who got himself elected POTUS with help from Russia? LMAO again!

          • vierotchka Says:

            Yes, absolutely, of all of them, because they all are far, far better and smarter people than you’ll ever or could ever dream to be!

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Glad to see that Vera has so openly lumped herself in with Putin and the Pussy Grabber as one of the “smart and better” people. Stupid and delusional as always. LMAO

          • vierotchka Says:

            Of course, not that it was any particular achievement because I sail waaaay above them, you stupid old decrepit, fetid and foul, rotting zit!

          • dumboldguy Says:

            ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz……….!!!!!!!!

          • vierotchka Says:

            Good, keep on sleeping like the good little doggie you are – that’s when you’re at your smartest! LOL!

          • dumboldguy Says:

            ZZZZZZZzzzzzz (fart) zzzzzzz…..!!!!

          • vierotchka Says:

            This is what happens when one applies even the gentlest of squeezes to the top of your cranium, even when you’re not sleeping!

            https://imageshack.com/i/pnsa5H88g

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Pig!

          • vierotchka Says:

            Indeed you are, and of the worst kind! LOL!


          • Rotchy/Vera aka Ms. Putin Lover is by far the most ignorant Russian troll I’ve encountered anywhere.

            Jesus, I get a headache just scrolling past her idiotic gifs.

          • vierotchka Says:

            You’re in no position to judge me, because in the department of ignorance, you take the crown, you stupid little anorgasmic crone! As I’ve told you before, you really need to cut on your drinking because it is rotting your sorry excuse of a brain!

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Yep. She is perhaps the most ignorant and disgustingly vulgar troll of any variety that I have ever encountered on the web, and I’ve visited some RWNJ sites that will turn your stomach.

          • vierotchka Says:

            The way you project your own flaws onto me is almost amusing if it weren’t so sad.

            Is it alcohol, crack, or simply congenital cerebral degeneration?

            Most likely a combination of all three.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            I am projecting MY flaws on YOU? LOL There is nothing ignorant or disgustingly vulgar about any of my comments here—–YOU have a virtual monopoly on that here, as you continue to display for us with your mindless gif’s and feeble attempts at rejoinders.

            BTW, what are you doing posting comments ti Nicole and I at 4 and 5 AM Geneva time? Or, as suspected, are you really not in Geneva?

          • vierotchka Says:

            Hey, pus for brains!

            Yes, you constantly project your flaws onto me. Even Trump is a better man than you!

            As to where I am, that’s for me to know and for you to wonder.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            As I said, feeble rejoinders is the best you can do. And what “artsy” old lady in Geneva talks about crystal meth anyway? Or all the other vulgar and disgusting “youngish”crap that comes out under your name? Again, you set my crap detectors to vibrating and conjure up thoughts of a crew of vodka and drug-addled young Roooskies in a cellar in Moscow pumping out pro-Putin and anti-American bullshit. How much do they pay you to use your persona as “cover”?

            Going out to do yard work before the climate change-induced heat wave we’re having gets too bad. Later.

          • vierotchka Says:

            Delusional as always – you are a joke, a sad joke, a bad joke.

            I found a sculpture, a bust of you. The artist was too kind, he made you look far better than you actually look:

          • vierotchka Says:

            Oh, and by the way, re your yard work…


          • Indeed.

            And after reading her comments on this thread, I have to say that she authors the most disgusting I’ve had the misfortune to read in at least 3 years.

          • vierotchka Says:

            You obviously haven’t read any of dumboldguy’s far more offensive, disgusting and vulgar posts to me! But then, you’re his brainless, fawning groupie performing fellatio on him at every turn, and you obviously swallow and don’t spit!

            Who is twisting your arm to read my posts, anyway? You silly little anencephalic crone!

          • dumboldguy Says:

            You say to “look at dumboldguy’s far more offensive, disgusting and vulgar posts” to you? Nothing vulgar or disgusting about what I post about you Vera—-I merely call you stupid and sick, and just because you deny the obvious truth about yourself (or the russian stooges that have appropriated your persona do so) does not make it “offensive” to anyone but you.

            Check out the “thumbs” awarded to exchanges between you, Nicole, I, and others—-you disgust so many people that they don’t bother, but you are WAY behind in your approval rating.

            You consistently use juvenile offensive shit-fuck-suck language rather than try to discuss anything intelligently, as is evidenced once again by this comment:
            “…you’re his brainless, fawning groupie performing fellatio on him at every turn, and you obviously swallow and don’t spit!”

            Who is twisting your arm to read my posts, anyway?, you ask? The vast majority of them are not “posts” but merely the attention-seeking gif rantings of a stupid and sick old woman. Being so brief, animated, and “visual”, they are hard to ignore. But you knew that, didn’t you?—–that’s why you use them.

          • vierotchka Says:

            My oh my how absolutely deluded you are. In fact, you show unmistakable features of psychopathy and toxic narcissism. I pity you.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Save your pity for yourself, you stupid and deluded woman. It it getting REALLY tiresome looking at your unsupported bald assertions. Do you not understand that just because you make some half-assed statement that does not make it true?

            There are accepted definitions for psychopathy and narcissism—try using them to make an argument and maybe someone will pay attention.

            Otherwise—-ZZZZZzzzzzz…….!!!!!!!!

          • vierotchka Says:

            Quod erat demonstrandum! Thanks for always proving my points! LOL!

          • dumboldguy Says:

            You make no “points” and have NO understanding of what QED means. Stupid STUPID woman! Go away!

          • vierotchka Says:

            It basically means “thus it has been demonstrated” – and you regularly demonstrate that I am right in my assessments of you, doofus!

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Gotcha? LMAO over that one. The only one you regularly “gotcha” here is YOU yourself, you deluded and stupid woman. You make no “assessments”—-you just call people vulgar and disgusting names and the only QED there is that YOU are a loser of the highest order.


          • CRONE ROTCHY/VERA: “Who is twisting your arm to read my posts, anyway?”

            really? you are aware that anyone who wishes to read the posts of normal human beings has to scroll past your pathetic scribes, right?

            Begone, you idiotic russian hag/crone.

          • vierotchka Says:

            Are you then incapable of scrolling past without reading? You’re even dumber than I thought you were, and you of course appear right behind your idol the pathetic psychopathic dumboldguy – is your mouth permanently attached to his gonads? Oh, and you’re also incapable of any kind of originality but use my words… how utterly lamentable!

          • dumboldguy Says:

            I will repeat myself—–Who is twisting your arm to read my posts, anyway?, you ask? The vast majority of them are not “posts” but merely the attention-seeking gif rantings of a stupid and sick old woman. Being so brief, animated, and “visual”, they are hard to ignore. But you knew that, didn’t you?—–that’s why you use them.

            And they display NO originality at all, just the same vulgar and juvenile name calling, so don’t be lecturing others there.

            You are just a hijacker, Vera (or the gang of russian trolls using your name are) and have long outlived your usefulness as a bad example. Trump is going down over his lying and collusion with Putin and other russians, and there will be no need for trolls like you to spread BS—-enjoy your approaching retirement.

            PS It’s not even 4 AM in Geneva. Do you really want us to believe that you are up and posting?

          • vierotchka Says:

            As to my whereabouts, you are of course free to believe any nonsense you wish – you do that all the time, anyways! LOL!

    • dumboldguy Says:

      It is difficult to watch this smarmy little weasel speak out of both sides of his mouth, but it does allow us to try to ascertain Putin’s “exact position” since it is coming to us live on screen from the horse’s ass’s mouth himself.

      Vera the Russian troll and Whore for Putin tells us that “Intellectual honesty demands that one should find out Putin’s actual position on that subject”? Vera lecturing us on intellectual honesty? LOL—–actually LMAO!

      Too bad Putin displayed little intellectual honesty in his 7 minutes of evasion, obfuscation, and misstatement of fact. and his “exact position” remains unclear. It’s becoming more obvious every day that no amount of tap dancing by Putin is going to allow him to get his Puppet the Pussy Grabber under control—-talk is cheap for both of them.


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