The Way Forward: Local, Vocal, and Don’t Back Down

January 22, 2017

I’ve been posting clips from Jeff Masters, Ben Santer, John Cook, and others from a roundtable gathering in San Francisco during the American Geophysical Union meeting in December.

At the end of the presentations, I broke with my usual practice and stepped from behind the camera to talk about the way forward.

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27 Responses to “The Way Forward: Local, Vocal, and Don’t Back Down”

  1. Peter Bellin Says:

    Well said, thank you.

  2. vierotchka Says:

    You really should watch this!

    • dumboldguy Says:

      Nice job, Vierotchka. After the facade of “making nice” with some seemingly “friendly” comments on other Crock threads, you revert to being a whore for Putin and “bigfoot” the living s**t out of Peter’s fine message with this irrelevant piece of Russian propaganda bullshit Transparent, hugely insulting to Peter, and just downright stupid of you.

      I’m sorry to see that Lee Camp has apparently lost his mind and sold out to the enemies of the country. (His hair is evidence of his mental and moral deterioration, just as it is with Trump). The Russians must be paying him some big bucks to be their front man on Redacted Tonight, which is billed as “RT America’s first comedy show”. The only thing “comedic” about the show is the thought that they want us to think that it is NOT just thinly disguised anti-American propaganda.

      Camp is NOT a Stewart, Colbert, Maher, or any other of the AMERICAN comedians who poke fun and speak truth to power with the intent of making the country pay attention and perhaps become stronger. He seeks to damage the country instead.

      Yes, everyone REALLY SHOULD watch this, and even do it more than once to catch all the perfidy it contains. Camp begins with a typical “comical” series of jokes that sound very much like what we hear from the other comedians—-the typical propaganda technique of lulling your audience at the start with familiar words—-but around the 4:00 mark Camp launches into a stream of anti-American invective that lasts for the remaining 8:00.

      Take notes—-I took a few, and among the most egregious things Camp said was that the U.S. was spending huge amounts of $$$ on defense, the $$$ spent on one F-35 could cure malaria, and that “90% of those killed by American bombs were “innocent civilians” (that last was my favorite because the Russian bombing of hospitals in Aleppo popped into my head). The same fingers could be pointed at Russia if we were trying to be fair and balanced. Camp goes on and on in the same vein of sowing doubt and weakening perceptions about America.

      You are am insulting whore, Vierotchka, and I don’t understand why Peter hasn’t banned you from Crock. Perhaps it is because you ARE such a whore for the Russians and serve as such a wonderful BAD example? Is it because your presence here proves that the Russians are indeed seeking to interfere with and damage American democracy? That if they employ someone as inept as you, they surely must have professionals doing far better work behind the scenes (as in the people who are writing the scripts for Camp?)

    • patricklinsley Says:

      Dammit Vierotchka! I was going to reflexively downvote you, but that was actually pretty good. Thank you 😀

      • dumboldguy Says:

        “….actually pretty good”? Really? How many times (and how closely) did you watch it? You usually make better sense when you comment here.

        (and about 98+% of the time, “downvoting Vierotchka reflexively” will still yield the same result as if you had read her crap carefully)

        • patricklinsley Says:

          Not too closely actually had it on my browser in the background. See what you mean though and truth be told some of what he says I agree with, but having studied the the Cold War far too much growing up it has the same threads as most Soviet based propaganda. Namely to make people cynical about representative democracy, rather than to show how a lack of it is destructive to our well being. I’ll pay more attention next time because this is the channel literally trying to get us to think Russia somehow the victim rather than a regional bully trying to create mini puppet states in Eastern Europe (and having been doing this for at least last two centuries https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/10/09/how-the-rivalry-between-russians-and-turks-shaped-the-world/?utm_term=.e6c3c7cb6b7b).

          P.S. Have you read The Man without a Face by Masha Gessen about Putin’s rise to power? Only read some of it last year, but even though it is a few years old still is very relevant and explains how Putin became Russia’s (unlikely) strongman.

          • patricklinsley Says:

            Oh hey cool vierotchka could you just post that instead whenever you’re going to post a sycophantic comment about Putin so we no one actually has to read it?

            You know what also that reminds me about what one of my Russian coworkers interjected when I stated Putin is a former KGB agent -“no not former, once KGB always KGB”. All smoke and mirrors, same matryoshka doll of lies from the nomenklatura of post-Soviet power (as in all of the lines of power in the former satellite states that somehow come to a point in Red Square).

            Dunno why you wanna be a part of that, but hopefully it pays well. And please instead of a biting comment that challenges me and my assumptions please, please post one of those gifs you have from 2008 to let me know you have no actual response or defense for what you do.

          • vierotchka Says:

            You truly personify the expression “ignorance is bliss”! I’ve been reading all the fiction about Putin y’all have been posting, fiction written by ignoramuses with vested interests in the downfall of Russia (won’t happen) who spread lies and fabrications – and you lot are so credulous and gullible, and share in that insane greed to see Russia fall so that your masters can steal its riches, that you fall hook, line and sinker for these poorly written and phantasmagorical tales.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Haven’t read Man without a Face and likely won’t. I have read a lot of stuff down through the years about the decline of Russia and watched it in real time, so I don’t need to waste any more time—-would rather read about how septic tanks work.

          • patricklinsley Says:

            Delusion vierotchka, pure delusion. Nevermind go back to gifs.

          • vierotchka Says:

            Gormless piece of projection! LOL!


  3. Well stated, Peter.

    “I can’t eat. I can’t sleep. I feel like someone kicked me in the stomach, and I feel like somebody died.”

    That combination pretty much describes my feelings. I can only imagine that much of the country feels the same way.

    Yesterday, I had a meltdown just considering the future of our planet. It makes me sick, and not just the potential impact on humans. You see, until recently, I had not realized how much I love this planet and it’s majesty, and I cannot imagine it in the kind of condition that will be foisted upon it by human caused climate change.

    We have to FIGHT back harder. There is no other way.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      You’re not alone, Nicole. I have been so pissed that I want to break things. I’m thinking of going to the range and rapidly firing off a couple of boxes of ammo—will use the 12 gauge because it makes a nice flash when fired, as well as a lot more noise and smoke than a hand gun. I would dearly love to put a drawing of the Pussy Grabber out there as a target, but that would probably be frowned on by management (although I HAVE seen targets with “Muslim Terrorist” images on them), and might lead to some arguments with the “Real ‘Muricans” and “Patriots”who tend to frequent the range.


      • hmmm…maybe i need to go buy myself a damn gun.

        Only half kidding. I am so damn frustrated.

      • andrewfez Says:

        We used to do some skeet shooting back in the day. The barrels tend to run hot after so many rounds, so you need like 3 or so guns to keep the game going for a while. Did a little squirrel hunting as well, but the taste of the meat wasn’t really worth the trouble. Anyway this thing has already met it’s signature goal but fellow ‘Crocker’s are welcome to add to it:

        https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-trumps-full-tax-returns-all-information-needed-verify-emoluments-clause-compliance

        • dumboldguy Says:

          The Remington 12 gauge 870 Tactical I fire only has a magazine capacity of 6 rounds, so I likely won’t melt the barrel. After the first volley I will likely feel better enough to slow down and spread out the shots. Maybe only one box will do the trick.

          I will join you in suggesting that folks sign the petition—-I already have, along with countless other similar petitions. A couple of groups have already started working for The Pussy Grabber’s impeachment because of his failure to disclose his finances and his conflicts of interest through his businesses. The heat needs to be turned up.

          Another good stir-the-pot tactic is to call your Senator’s offices and encourage them to vote against Trump’s cabinet nominees and delay confirmation.

    • Andy Lee Robinson Says:

      Peter nailed it – I feel the same way too.

      The tawdry and tasteless inauguration was a wake, and a wakeup call.

      If only people were so motivated before the election.

  4. redskylite Says:

    Thanks for this well stated piece. I attach some very wise concerns from the Pope, my own concerns included by the pontiff in this BBC media release. In my opinion “populism” stoked by some of the seedier news outlets is a dangerous threat to world progress and peace.

    Although I’m not a Catholic the Pope’s warnings once again reflect great wisdom and understanding.

    “Crises provoke fear, alarm. In my opinion, the most obvious example of European populism is Germany in 1933.

    “Germany is broken, it needs to get up, to find its identity, a leader, someone capable of restoring its character, and there is a young man named Adolf Hitler who says: “I can, I can”.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38708485

    • dumboldguy Says:

      Good link. And you don’t have to be Catholic to agree with the Pope. I’m not a Baptist, but I thought MLK had some good messages for all.


  5. BREAKING: The GOP House has introduced a bill to remove the U.S. from the United Nations.
    http://nbc4i.com/2017/01/22/bill-introduced-to-remove-us-from-united-nations/

    probably at the direction of that Russian MFer.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      Relax, it likely won’t ever get out of committee. Just some Tea Party moron celebrating the Pussy Grabber’s victory.


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