Storing Sky as Stone. What Mars Can Teach us About Quelling Carbon

October 10, 2016

15 Responses to “Storing Sky as Stone. What Mars Can Teach us About Quelling Carbon”

  1. Tom Bates Says:

    Mars is essentially 100 percent CO2 at a partial pressure 2000 times that of earth ‘s CO2 and it is as cold as heck. What Mars teaches us about CO2 is that CO2 is a very poor greenhouse gas that has minimal effect on earths climate. Per a NASA study, 0.08F more warming from the increase in CO2.

  2. dumboldguy Says:

    What a nice video! And it’s got SCIENCE in it! And a PhD “candidate” made it!

    If one tracks down the source of this piece, one finds that it came from Science Hooker—–go to for a full understanding of who that is and what contributions to science are made by SH.

    IMO, another self promoter who will one day try to get people to send $$$ to support her “skies into stone” BS. Perhaps she can team up with the Solar Roadway folks and try to sequester CO2 in the glass surface of the Solar Roadways that will soon be popping up everywhere. Maybe she can tag on to Musk’s Mars BS and suck up some $$$ there, and since NASA seems to be more interested in Mars BS than studying our rapidly deteriorating planet, there’s an opportunity there as well.

    PS In case anyone is unaware, Musk is now talking about sending “ships” to Mars with 100 or more people on board. Make your reservations now (for your great grandchildren).

  3. Glenn Martin Says:

    A tad light on details.

    • mboli Says:

      More than a tad. We have an example much closer to home of a planetary atmosphere de-carbonizing by forming carbonate rocks, and the video doesn’t make the case that Mars has any new information to offer. The Mars theme seems to be just a hook.

  4. Gingerbaker Says:

    Hey, lay offa Master Tom. He gets his inside dope straight from Steve Goddard and Goddard is a respected scientific name in planetary science stuff.

    Unfortunately, “Goddard” is a pseudonym for a guy with a Masters in Electrical Engineering whose real name is Tony Heller. Tony Heller, unfortunately, is a laughing stock. So, that doesn’t bode well for Heller’s acolyte, who I guess we should now call SpaceMaster Bates.

  5. mboli Says:

    I *really* wonder about mineralization. It could be interesting of Greenman found an expert to explain how reasonable it would or wouldn’t be to sequester CO2 as carbonates.
    My attitude has always been: I’m living on top of hundreds of feet of sequestered carbon. Look at almost any layered rock formation, any limestone quarry, the Grand Canyon: you are looking at carbonate rocks. My understanding is the carbon was once in the atmosphere, it reacted with minerals like olivine and calcite as they weathered out of the surface.
    But you don’t see much written about the possibility of sequestering carbon through this process. You can find mention of the idea, and of pilot projects. But there doesn’t seem to be a lot of activity.
    My guess is that there must be reasons it is not practical, perhaps it takes too much energy or the reaction is too slow.
    Anyway, as an engaged layperson it would be nice to know.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      It’s good to see that someone wants to discuss the science rather than let Master Bates jerk us off topic.

      You’re right that the Earth has sequestered a lot of carbon “naturally” through “mineralization”, and it IS one of the things the geoengineering types are looking at seriously. The problem is, as you state, that “….perhaps it takes too much energy or the reaction is too slow”.

      We would have to grind up a lot of rock and spread it thinly to get the CO2 uptake to happen with the rapidity needed to match our release of CO2—-unless every machine involved was powered by electricity from solar, wind, or nuclear, the CO2 budget would be high, and the “natural” process the Earth employs took place over a very long time—-more time than we have.

      Keep googling, and you’ll find a fair amount of stuff. You could spend the rest of your life here: Scholarly articles for co2 capture by olivine

      Much research needs to be done in this area, but one thing that is NOT likely to give us any answers is looking at what happened on Mars

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