“Hurricane Truthers” Sure that Mathew a Hoax

October 6, 2016

More evidence that right wing media kills.

Talking Points Memo:

Hours ahead of Hurricane Matthews’ landfall on Florida’s Atlantic coast, some climate change skeptics downplayed the danger of what meteorologists say could be the worst such storm since Hurricane Katrina.

Public officials and meteorologists have repeatedly stressed the strength of the storm, especially to those living in the evacuation zones on Florida’s Atlantic coast.

“This storm will kill you. Time is running out,” Gov. Rick Scott (R) said in a press conference Thursday. “There are no excuses. You need to leave. Evacuate, evacuate, evacuate. Are you willing to take a change to risk your life? Are you willing to take a gamble? That’s what you’re doing.”

Yet in the face of those pleas conservative aggregator Matt Drudge, who has a house in Florida, tweeted that “The deplorables are starting to wonder if govt has been lying to them about Hurricane Matthew intensity to make exaggerated point on climate,” and “Hurricane Center has monopoly on data. No way of verifying claims. Nassau ground observations DID NOT match statements! 165mph gusts? WHERE?”

Drudge later posted the web address of a NOAA buoy and encouraged readers to monitor the storm on their own, to see if “observations match the Hurricane Center’s claimed 140 mph sustained winds.”

As of 6:00 p.m. Thursday, this was the front page of the Drudge Report:

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8 Responses to ““Hurricane Truthers” Sure that Mathew a Hoax”


  1. Exact same thing happened in Australia last year when Cyclone Marcia rapidly went from about Category 2 to Category 5 just before it hit Central Queensland. Afterwards altright loonies claimed it was only a Category 1 or 2 cyclone because “cyclones can’t strengthen that fast” and windspeed monitors 100+km away didn’t show the peak speeds being quoted near the centre. Obviously the satellite data was faked.

    • Tom Bates Says:

      Prior to landfall in the early hours of February 20th, the automatic weather station on Middle Percy Island recorded a maximum sustained (10 minute average) wind speed of 84 knots (156 km/h) and a maximum wind gust of 112 knots (208 km/h), or the equivalent of a strong category 3 system. This weather station was located to the west of tropical cyclone Marcia’s core and would not have experienced the cyclone’s maximum winds in its eye-wall. At that time, intensity estimates inferred from satellite imagery indicated Marcia was a category 5 system at its core. High resolution radar imagery (Figure 3) shows that Middle Percy Island was located just outside the eye wall of Marcia (represented by the strong reflectivity returns near the centre of the system).

      All this comes from the australian weather service. Apparently the storm had a tornado at its core, outside of that the storm was a lot less severe.


      • No, The Bureau of Meteorology neither says nor implies that “Apparently the storm had a tornado at its core, outside of that the storm was a lot less severe”

        What it says is this:

        Based on all the evidence collected and detailed reanalysis of satellite imagery, severe tropical cyclone Marcia crossed the coast at Shoalwater Bay (north northwest of Yeppoon) as a category 5 system at around 8am AEST on February 20th. Severe tropical cyclone Marcia was a relatively compact system compared to other severe tropical cyclones such as severe tropical cyclone Yasi and weakened quickly as it moved over land during the day. It is believed that only a small part of the coastline within about 15km of the cyclone centre would have experienced category 5 strength winds.

        As Marcia moved over land, the township of Byfield sustained major damage as did the surrounding pine forest plantations. Yeppoon also received significant damage with the automatic weather station recording a maximum sustained wind speed (10 minute average) of 65 knots (120 km/h), or the equivalent of a category 3 system, as the category 4 centre of Marcia passed to the west.

        Regardless, all of this is exactly consistent with what I originally said:
        *the cyclone rapidly intrensified – from Cat 1 4pm Feb 18 to Cat 5 4am Feb 20
        *the cyclone didn’t conveniently pass directly over a weather station, so the closet one recorded lower windspeeds
        *Cyclone deniers claim it was something other than a Cat 5 cyclone

        But I’ll tell you what – I’ll ask my family who were near Byfield and in Rockhampton at the time. I’ll ask them if all that damage was real.

  2. Andy Lee Robinson Says:

    Let Darwin take its course…

  3. Tom Bates Says:

    SAUF1 C 2200 29.86 -81.27 34 158 290 35 49 that one is 49 kts, which is not much wind. The weather service predicts the category of the storm will rapidly drop to a 2 from 4. It was 4 when it hit Haiti and the Dominican republic. All the government is doing is trying to get idiots to leave for safer places.

  4. Tom Bates Says:

    http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?lat1=30.2N&lon1=80.7W&uom=E&dist=40&ot=A&time=3 try this if you want to look at the bouys. SAUF1 is between 30 and 40 miles out.


  5. Of course humans are special, or are they. ?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-07/apes-can-recognise-when-somone-elses-beilefs-are-wrong/7912064

    Apes share cognitive ability of humans’ to recognise perspective of others

    Scientists using homemade videos featuring a person in a King Kong costume have documented a remarkable cognitive skill shared by chimpanzees, bonobos and orangutans: the human-like ability to recognise when someone else’s beliefs are wrong.

    The ability to think about others’ thoughts and emotions is at the heart of so much of human social behaviour, including our unique forms of communication, cooperation and culture, study co-leader Christopher Krupenye said.

    At the core of this ability is understanding that others’ actions are guided not necessarily by reality but by their beliefs about reality, even when false, added Dr Krupenye, a comparative psychologist at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Germany who worked on the study, published in the journal Science, at Duke University.

    Previous research has showed that apes can reason about others’ goals and intentions, know what others can see, and understand what others know based on what those others have seen.

    Maybe they are smarter than the average Conservative, well at least a Trumper


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