On Bill Maher, Al Gore

January 16, 2016

Discussing Obama’s new rule for coal mining.

And listen to the climate denialist heads explode..

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14 Responses to “On Bill Maher, Al Gore”

  1. pendantry Says:

    I have immense respect for Al Gore — and especially Bill Maher — but, yeah, it’s great to say (in relation to COP21) “It’s a start” — the problem is that we ought by now to be approaching the end of the race, not approaching the starting blocks.

    So when some folk are talking about the possibility of the ‘end times’, religious issues aside: is it really so hard to comprehend why that is?

    • painedumonde Says:

      C’est ça, vraiment, but as Maher says and IMO, the biggest stumbling block that we have is the ideology that is arrayed against climate change and our response. With disasters everywhere, civil war in Africa, Indonesia, and the Levant (to name but a few), racism raising its ugly head in secular Europe and non-secular America, on and on, the common point is almost always religion. And not be pedantic (wink wink, nudge nudge), that point needs to disappear for us, humans, to take responsibility for what we have done and what we can do.

      Bonne chance !

  2. grindupbaker Says:

    At 4:20 “internet…that wasn’t around in 1979”. In 1978 I was writing x.25 data packet send/receive software at frame and packet levels for Bell Canada Datapac 3000 in Zilog Z80 Assembler and our Toronto and Vancouver offices were communicating to use our Toronto computer at our Vancouver office. Al can keep the Global Warmage thing, though I do know a couple orders of magnitude more about that science than any politician.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      In the summer of 1979, I worked several consecutive 80+ hour weeks trying to develop the master schedule for a school that had 4500 students in grades 7-12. Certain people in the school system’s MIS department had assured us that this “new” on-line technology would allow us to do a much better job of scheduling than the old mostly “manual” system—faster, give more feedback, etc. They did not tell us that the system was too slow and had too little capacity to do the job. After getting innumerable “tombstones” at 1 to 5 AM (when I chose to work because the system was less crowded then), MIS finally cleaned out all the data from one of the school system’s payroll servers and loaded only my school’s data in—-it took 28 straight hours for the program to successfully complete the run, but we DID open on time—barely, some other schools did not. So pardon me if I say that at that time we were telling the MIS folk to take their Zilog Z80’s and HP 3000’s and shove them.

      I only say all that because of the dismissive hyperbole evident in “I do know a COUPLE OF ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE about that science than ANY politician”.
      Really?

        • dumboldguy Says:

          “Yes, really”, he said so smugly—-as I said, quite dismissive (and arrogant) hyperbole from a “hobbyist” student of climate change. A “couple of orders of magnitude” means at least 100X as much, and “more than ANY politician” means more than ALL politicians in the whole wide world. Overreach much, GUB?

          I am about to name GUB to full membership in the Order of the Perfumed Sleeve Hanky. Any objections?

          • grindupbaker Says:

            Not necessarily. I might be using binary orders of magnitude. It’s true though that I forgot Angela Merkel, somewhat of an anomaly. It’s unlikely that I know more than 4x as much as Angela Merkel regarding Earth’s climate science. I suppose Al Gore also must have picked up more than 1% of that which I have because I’m short of hobby time and he seems to spend much time on it. I’m fairly confident on the 100x (decimal-based) vis a vis other politicians I’ve seen discussing climate science. Do have a specific non-Merkel non-Gore politician in mind ?


    • Why in the world would Al Gore spend much time studying the details of how computers work? While we were writing system software, he was studying legislation.

      • grindupbaker Says:

        “Why in the world would Al Gore spend much time studying the details of how computers work?” I know of no reason why.

        • dumboldguy Says:

          You just might develop some understanding of WHY if you bothered to look up Gore’s history re: computers and the internet rather than sit there sniffing your sleeve hanky and regaling us with “GUBbies”.

          He is a member of the Internet Hall of Fame—look here
          http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/al-gore

          You need to check this out also for a more complete history
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology

          An excerpt:

          “Gore had been involved with computers since the 1970s, first as a Congressman and later as Senator and Vice President, where he was a “genuine nerd, with a geek reputation running back to his days as a futurist Atari Democrat in the House. Before computers were comprehensible […] Gore struggled to explain artificial intelligence and fiber-optic networks to sleepy colleagues.”

          PS to Charles. Much of that legislation that Gore was “studying” (and writing and getting passed) was related to computer technology and the internet.

          • grindupbaker Says:

            No. I’ll just stick with the small random regalings of people with my memories of x.25 data packet switching in the 1970s absolutely whenever I feel like it and not check Al Gore’s 1970s history of it because there’s such as thing as too much nostalgia, it kills the present.

      • grindupbaker Says:

        You just might develop some understanding of WHY if you bothered to look up Gore’s history re: computers and the internet rather than sit there sniffing your sleeve hanky and regaling us with “GUBbies”.

        He is a member of the Internet Hall of Fame—look here
        http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/al-gore

        You need to check this out also for a more complete history
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology

        An excerpt:

        “Gore had been involved with computers since the 1970s, first as a Congressman and later as Senator and Vice President, where he was a “genuine nerd, with a geek reputation running back to his days as a futurist Atari Democrat in the House. Before computers were comprehensible […] Gore struggled to explain artificial intelligence and fiber-optic networks to sleepy colleagues.”


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