Exxon Panicking Now. Oh, Just Wait.

December 7, 2015

Very soon, I’ll be posting a new video about the woefully underreported but -now-catching-on #ExxonKnew story.  Let’s just say it does not cast a flattering light on Exxon Mobil, and climate deniers in general – and portends a coming day of reckoning.

To catch up on the state of denial among climate deniers, I spoke in recent weeks to Marc Morano, high profile uber-denier,  frequent Fox News guest, and curator of the climatedepot website. You can see the first, very interesting part of that interview above. Judge for yourself the general state of mind in denierville by his remarks.

Washington Post:

To understand how dangerously extreme the Republican Party has become on climate change, compare its stance to that of ExxonMobil.

No one would confuse the oil and gas giant with the Sierra Club. But if you visit Exxon’s website , you will find that the company believes climate change is real, that governments should take action to combat it and that the most sensible action would be a revenue-neutral tax on carbon — in other words, a tax on oil, gas and coal, with the proceeds returned to taxpayers for them to spend as they choose.

With no government action, Exxon experts told us during a visit to The Post last week, average temperatures are likely to rise by a catastrophic (my word, not theirs) 5 degrees Celsius, with rises of 6, 7 or even more quite possible.

“A properly designed carbon tax can be predictable, transparent, and comparatively simple to understand and implement,” Exxon says in a position paper titled “Engaging on climate change.”

None of this is radical. Officials negotiating a climate agreement right now in Paris would take it as self-evident. Republican leaders in the 1980s and 1990s would have raised no objection.

But to today’s Republicans, ExxonMobil’s moderate, self-evident views are akin to heresy. Donald Trump, the leading GOP presidential candidate, says, “I don’t believe in climate change.” Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.) says, “Climate change is not science, it’s religion.” Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) at the moment seems to acknowledge that climate change might be real but opposes any action to deal with it.

Paul Krugman in the New York Times:

Future historians — if there are any future historians — will almost surely say that the most important thing happening in the world during December 2015 was the climate talks in Paris. True, nothing agreed to in Paris will be enough, by itself, to solve the problem of global warming. But the talks could mark a turning point, the beginning of the kind of international action needed to avert catastrophe.

Then again, they might not; we may be doomed. And if we are, you know who will be responsible: the Republican Party.

O.K., I know the reaction of many readers: How partisan! How over the top! But what I said is, in fact, the obvious truth. And the inability of our news media, our pundits and our political establishment in general to face up to that truth is an important contributing factor to the danger we face.

Anyone who follows U.S. political debates on the environment knows that Republican politicians overwhelmingly oppose any action to limit emissions of greenhouse gases, and that the great majority reject the scientific consensus on climate change. Last year PolitiFact could find only eight Republicans in Congress, out of 278 in the caucus, who had made on-the-record comments accepting the reality of man-made global warming. And most of the contenders for the Republican presidential nomination are solidly in the anti-science camp.

I often hear from people claiming that the American left is just as bad as the right on scientific issues, citing, say, hysteria over genetically modified food or nuclear power. But even if you think such views are really comparable to climate denial (which they aren’t), they’re views held by only some people on the left, not orthodoxies enforced on a whole party by what even my conservative colleague David Brooks calls the “thought police.”

And climate-denial orthodoxy doesn’t just say that the scientific consensus is wrong. Senior Republican members of Congress routinely indulge in wild conspiracy theories, alleging that all the evidence for climate change is the product of a giant hoax perpetrated by thousands of scientists around the world. And they do all they can to harass and intimidate individual scientists.

UPDATE: New Exxon commercial, submitted as further evidence.


14 Responses to “Exxon Panicking Now. Oh, Just Wait.”

  1. Shane Burgel Says:

    I’m someone who in the past identified more with the Republican party but I have been so turned off by the anti-science rhetoric in the last 8 years that I can’t stomach the thought of them having a majority in any branch.

    There are still things that I fundamentally disagree with on the left side but I still just can’t believe how much denial exists. It’s a sad reflection of what it takes to get a Republication nomination in this day and age.

  2. While watching CBS news last night, I saw an Exxon add touting Exxon’s work on algae-based biofuels, carbon-capture technology, and super-efficient high-MPG automobiles.

    This is quite an amazing turnaround in a very short time for such a huge corporation. Doncha think?

    • peterangelo Says:

      They still need to pay for the cover-up years. and Ronald Reagan needs to be condemned for not pushing a future Friendly Energy Policy. These people knew and they should pay the price for kknowing and intentiaonlly decieving. no ifs, ands or buts!!!

    • dumboldguy Says:

      An “amazing turnaround” indeed! Except that it’s just the usual “spin” and bullshit that corporations caught with their pants down engage in. (And that reminds me, what’s going on with VW?

      A look at the Exxon website shows that they have big plans for being in the forefront of saving the world through fossil fuels (and have had them for a while). Some BS excerpts:

      “We believe that carbon emissions will plateau and start to decrease starting around 2030 as energy efficiency spreads and as various carbon-reduction policies are enacted around the world.

      “ExxonMobil continues to fund and conduct research on advanced biofuels. This work is part of our many investments in new technologies with the transformative potential to increase energy supplies, reduce emissions, and improve operational efficiencies.

      “ExxonMobil leads in one of the most important next-generation technologies: carbon capture and sequestration (CCS). CCS is the process by which carbon dioxide gas that would otherwise be released into the atmosphere is separated, compressed and injected into underground geologic formations for permanent storage.

      “Coal is expected to remain an important source of electricity generation, but its share of delivered electricity is expected to drop from 40 percent to about 25 percent over The Outlook period as most nations turn to cleaner, less-carbon-intense fuels to improve air quality and curb greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions.

      Exxon has not met with much success in its biofuels endeavors, and no one is making much progress on CCS:


      “Exxon Chief Executive Officer Rex Tillerson said on PBS television’s “Charlie Rose” show that its investments in algae biofuels may not succeed for at least another 25 years”.

      And some “pant down” stuff:


      “An algae biofuels television ad from ExxonMobil UK Ltd. that aired in Europe earlier this month has been banned from broadcast by the U.K. Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) after complaints that the ad “misleadingly implied that the technology would reduce CO2 [carbon dioxide] levels.”

  3. The world is running out of fossil fuels. Exxon is positioning itself to gradually replace oil. They don’t have a replacement for natural gas, but the shortage won’t start until 2030 or so.

  4. ralphiesmom Says:

    But some of us on the “left” have been in denial about something else it seems. The U.S. military has a huge carbon footprint. All the wars they are engaged in are releasing ton upon ton of CO2. This fact was conceded to in Kyoto and has been covered up ever since. Apparently the Canadian Tar Sands oil is perfect for jet fuel. Seems like Green efforts should be trying to expose and stop this (not to mention the wars’ immediate carnage on human lives). http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/04/the-pentagons-carbon-boot-print/ (sent via )

  5. Lionel Smith Says:


    Marano thinking the deniers are becoming stronger on the science e.g. Pat Michaels has a new book (only in e format so I’ll not be bothering then) out, a Pat & Chip production ‘Lukewarming….’ (well I guess it is Panto’ season) whilst openly admitting that the side he has batted for has successfully scuppered measures for mitigating climate change. Remember that, he is ‘on the record’.

    Meanwhile the Heartland gang are showing how much they like open and honest discussion:

    Heartland Institute Kicks Journalists Out of ‘Public’ Climate Denial Event in Paris, note links to an article at Open Democracy and the responses of Tom Harris.

    It will be interesting to see the direction in which the deniers will be taking their arguments with stronger science. Who will these ‘newly sceptical scientists’ be? Will Curry, Spencer, Christy be amongst them for we have learned how these are spinning things already.

  6. One can be a denier in climate science or a denier in solving the warming catastrophy. If one fails to use all the possible efficient tools to turn the heat down very quickly, one is equally guilty to this dreadful crime no matter how eagerly one is shouting amongst the crowds.

  7. If you think they are panicking now…..wait about 18 – 24 months….after their stock has had a “bear market rally”….is starting to tank.

    XOM (Exxon) and CVX (Chevron) stock are starting to “break down”. As I have written here before….they have one LAST RALLY in them AFTER their stock gets down to the $60ish area. And that rally may last 12 – 24 months.

    It will all depend on two things: (1) how fast big investors are “getting out of Dodge” (selling their stock), and (2) FUNDAMENTAL things like Greenland ice melt and Arctic ice melt the next year or two, temperature anomaly’s, price of oil, etc.

    It is clear that renewables are going to REPLACE fossil fuels. Coal….has already been decimated in the stock market. Oil is next…..and after that…natural gas.

    And it will happen sooner than most think.

  8. I also HOPE that people will HOLD THESE FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE. And by “these folks”….I mean:

    Joe Bastardi
    Sean Hannity
    Bill O’Reilly
    FOX News (in general)
    Politicians (too many to list)

    We (humans) like to think that we are “intelligent life.” I don’t happen to believe that. Because I believe that intelligent life would NEVER allow a fake news station to lie on important policy matters. And that is just what FOX News has made a living on. Whether it is lying about climate change, gun control, or a number of other issues….”intelligent life” would NEVER allow that to happen.

    FOX and others have lied for 20 years. I intend to REMIND PEOPLE that FOX lied about global warming for 20 years AFTER they admit they were wrong.

    FOX News: “Where truth and journalism are dead.”

  9. dumboldguy Says:

    It’s amazing how easily you can get Mark Morono to show the world that he’s a moron. What kind of “magic’ do you work on him? (Or does he just have some deep-seated need to do that, and does it for everyone who talks to him?).

    I think it’s interesting that you “lost sound on your end”. Could it be that Morono spouted his BS and then unplugged his mike so that you couldn’t respond and help him destroy himself as you have done so well in past interviews?. Does he think that we will believe any of his BS just because he said it?

    I eagerly await the rest of the interview, in which he will presumably cite some “evidence” of why the deniers are “winning the science argument” and you will take him apart. Should be entertaining.

  10. addledlady Says:

    Take him apart? If only. But not very entertaining – for some reason or other, Morano really sets my teeth on edge.

    He treats climate as merely a political game. However, I’m pretty sure neither his demeanour-style-approach nor much of the content of what he says and does would change much if his chosen political battlefield was AIDS policy or workplace safety or capital punishment or methicillin-resistant necrotising fasciitis.

    He’d still choose the jolly salesman tone in the smiling assassin face while bullying, blustering, and playing his you’re just a joke if you think you’ll beat me, politics is an all or nothing, winner take all game. Even though me winning the game I’m playing will kill people who aren’t me.

    • petermogensen Says:

      Most climate deniers are crazy old men … but Morano is at least young enough to be alive to feel what ever wrath our grandchildren might find adequate.

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