CBS News: Electric Vehicles Get Serious in Norway

December 1, 2015

9 Responses to “CBS News: Electric Vehicles Get Serious in Norway”

  1. petersjazz Says:

    Sales tax on cars in Norway are extreme for fossil cars. And price of electricity is low since they have 120% hydro power (they export a lot of electricity). Low price on electricity makes it competetive to have heavy industry like aluminium production. Norway uses 4 times as much electricity per capita as USA.

  2. Choosing EV’s in Norway is really a “no-brainer”, you save so much on both “fuel costs” because electricity is cheap here (and from hydro electric), no toll on the roads, no VAT tax when purchasing, cheaper yearly road tax, free parking many places even free charging (although more and more paid options are coming).

    Personally, the moment the Leaf came and was so affordable, I went out and got one to replace my 15 year old BMW. The family loves the car, its big enough for all our uses and the savings alone are almost enough to pay for the loan. Now in the winter it’s also nice to start up the car for heating it without the local area stinking exhaust (the neighbor has a diesel SUV that stinks like rotten eggs every morning though). The only complaint I have about Nissan EVs is that their mobile app and website to control the car is terrible and seems to work 20% of the time (very odd they don’t put more into the software development, has been no update for years).

    Here is another video that BBC just did about EV’s in Norway. The woman (who was also in the video Peter linked) also has PV’s on her house to charge the car and is in some sense a pioneer in this since Norway is rather far north and hence have very little active sunlight/daylight – especially now in the winter time. 🙂

    • Oops, it seems I didnt get the starting location right there, You have to jump to around position 1:15 in that video to see the bit about EVs in Norway. Sorry.

    • otter17 Says:

      Very informative, thanks. It is nice to see northern European nations taking such a responsible stance on this issue, deploying technology and increasing efficiency. Denmark, Norway, Germany, all with a great start.

  3. Another pitch about EV’s in Norway here.

  4. andrewfez Says:

    ‘Range isn’t an issue when there are places to plug in everywhere.’

    • I only charge ours at home every evening/night using the standard charging cable that came with the Nissan Leaf. Plugs into a normal socket and draws maximum 10 Ah from our 230v outlet. Not sure how this is in the US so perhaps you need special chargers for it to deliver enough over 110v?

      As I have mentioned before, looking at the metering I use power approximately for the cost of around $30 each month to keep it topped for all our driving needs. It is about 4 to 5 times lower than I used in gasoline for my old BMW. 🙂

      • andrewfez Says:

        I think some people over here just do a slow, overnight charge at 110v, but others hire an electrician to install a 220v conversion outlet. I live in a townhouse that doesn’t have any individual outlets in the garage for each car, so in lieu of getting an EV, I do most of my local shopping and errands on a bicycle.

        I may be moving back to the east coast though, and if so, I may end up purchasing a Volt. I was thinking of doing some research on how to rig up a small, off grid solar/battery system just for charging the car. Depends on the economics over a 10, 15, 20 year period.

        I think if solar kits were more modular, where you could start ‘small’, running your home’s lights and refrigerator, and graduate up to car charging and central HVAC use by adding more panels and batteries, people would be more likely to convert.

        • Andy Lee Robinson Says:

          Solar kits *are* modular – you can just buy the bits as you like and add them together.
          If you want the cheapest solution, buy a load of raw solar cells off ebay for less than a dollar a pop, solder them together to make your desired voltage, and put them in glass frames. There are loads of tutorials.
          You don’t need to mount them on the roof, and could just wheel them out into the yard and back.

          Decide on what battery storage you want, and find a reputable MPPT charge controller. Lithium batteries are a bit too expensive yet, but marine deep cycle lead acid batteries are what the majority of charge controllers are configured for.
          A lot of bargains can be found if you have the time to research.

          There is an awful lot to learn, and youtube is a great source of information.

          Start small, and work up even as the prices come down.

          All this can be delegated to the professionals, but that can cost more than the kit itself.

          I got a 1kW ebike conversion today, fitted the motor and was riding around the neighbourhood in a couple of hours using 3 x 5Ah 4S lipo batteries to test – love it! Now I can get up the hill without needing to lie down for the next half hour!
          Only problem is that I can’t park it anywhere without worrying if it’ll still be there 5 minutes later, but at least I made the battery pack detachable.

          Now I’m building a harness and loom for 10 x 6S 5.2Ah lipos, arranged 2s5p.

          Then I’ll be able to go for a longer run and bigger hills…

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