Fox News(!) on Coke, Climate and Fake Science

August 11, 2015

Fox Business report with Shep Smith starts out discussing revelations that a “scientific” front group funded by Coca Cola has found that – surprise! – sugar is just fine for you and if you want to lose weight you should get your lazy ass off the couch and exercise.

Smith and fellow commentator Kennedy then engaged in a conversation about the “Merchants of Doubt” strategy, which they called an “underground marketing campaign” – pioneered by the tobacco companies.  Smith comments, “This reminds me of what the tobacco companies did back in the day, and more recently what climate change deniers are doing as well…”

Jaw dropping beam of honesty from Fox land…

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Reaction from FBN host Kennedy
Coca-Cola, the world’s largest producer of sugary beverages, is backing a new “science-based” solution to the obesity crisis: To maintain a healthy weight, get more exercise and worry less about cutting calories.

The beverage giant has teamed up with influential scientists who are advancing this message in medical journals, at conferences and through social media. To help the scientists get the word out, Coke has provided financial and logistical support to a new nonprofit organization called the Global Energy Balance Network, which promotes the argument that weight-conscious Americans are overly fixated on how much they eat and drink while not paying enough attention to exercise.

“Most of the focus in the popular media and in the scientific press is, ‘Oh they’re eating too much, eating too much, eating too much’ — blaming fast food, blaming sugary drinks and so on,” the group’s vice president, Steven N. Blair, an exercise scientist, says in a recent video announcing the new organization. “And there’s really virtually no compelling evidence that that, in fact, is the cause.”

Health experts say this message is misleading and part of an effort by Coke to deflect criticism about the role sugary drinks have played in the spread of obesity and Type 2 diabetes. They contend that the company is using the new group to convince the public that physical activity can offset a bad diet despite evidence that exercise has only minimal impact on weight compared with what people consume.

This clash over the science of obesity comes in a period of rising efforts to tax sugary drinks, remove them from schools and stop companies from marketing them to children. In the last two decades, consumption of full-calorie sodas by the average American has dropped by 25 percent.

Below, more on the “Merchants of Doubt” strategy:

39 Responses to “Fox News(!) on Coke, Climate and Fake Science”

  1. gregladen Says:

    No. Sugary soda should absolutely be vilified. It is not a context free entity.


  2. The stuff also rots your teeth, even the diet stuff.


  3. Dietary sweeteners actually appear to be worse in terms of association with metabolic disease and diabetes.

    Please see for example:

    Suez, Jotham, et al. “Artificial sweeteners induce glucose intolerance by altering the gut microbiota.” Nature 514.7521 (2014): 181-186.

    Click to access KoushikDas1.7.15.pdf

  4. miffedmax Says:

    As if Coke used sugar.

    • skeptictmac57 Says:

      Supposedly the Mexican Coca Cola uses cane sugar still. A lot of people seek it out because they like the taste better. I can’t tell the difference myself.


  5. Here is another article on the effects of dietary sweeteners:

    Nettleton, Jennifer A., et al. “Diet soda intake and risk of incident metabolic syndrome and type 2 diabetes in the Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis (MESA).” Diabetes care 32.4 (2009): 688-694.
    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.long

    The dietary sweetener industry is likely comparable to the tobacco and fossil fuel industry in understanding the harm that results from their products, yet denying the harm, or in this case, relying upon the perception that their product is beneficial to your health.

    Fruit juice another area where this sort of thing holds. Fruit is generally good for you. But highly processed fruit juice? Due to its high fructose and lack of dietary fiber, it appears to be playing major role in the childhood obesity epidemic.


  6. “…to deflect criticism about the role sugary drinks have played in the spread of obesity and Type 2 diabetes. …” Yessir. Ban sugary drinks and the fat / diabetes problem will be solved. Back in the 1990s, I ran across an Oprah show where a 400lb+ blimp declared she ate the same amount as her 110lb shrimp husband sitting beside her. You fellows would probably look saucer-eyed at her and declare her to be a science denier. I sure did.

    Crow about guilt-by-association all you want, trumpet a dud movie all you like, worship at the feet of Oreskes and send accolades to the main promulgator of the ‘tobacco shills parallel’ notion ( https://www.facebook.com/ross.gelbspan/posts/10207533528323504 ) about this very blog post, but there is still and always will be the 8000lb gorilla-in-the-room here:

    Not one of you has ever pointed to a shred of evidence showing skeptic climate scientists knew AGW was settled science but corrupting wads of money and threats to withhold it came from industry execs instructing ’em on where, when, and how to lie to the public. Not one of you guys here has even lifted a finger yet to dispute any details I have over at GelbspanFiles, and even more comical, the guy who claims ( http://dialoguesonglobalwarming.blogspot.com/2015/07/russell-cook-climate-science-harasser.html ) I harass Ross Gelbspan at my blog openly acknowledged he didn’t even read my blog ( http://gelbspanfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Keating-dont-read.jpg ) nor does he plan to in the future. Anybody see the giant wipeout there? Shades of CBS News’ Dan Rather and his ‘Well, these documents are forged, but there probably is real evidence out there proving George W is a draft dodger’?

    Friends, your continuing enslavement to guilt-by-association as a slayer of skeptic climate scientists will ultimately kill the AGW issue, it is a cancer eating the issue up from within and you only metastasize it with these exercises. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, this is your wakeup call. You are at a fork in the road — either find the evidence proving skeptic climate scientists know the truth, lie, are paid specifically to lie, and follow specific instructions to lie …… or figure out an exit strategy to get out of this guilt-by-association enslavement corner you painted yourselves into.

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    “Two Thumbs Up for this comment!” — Sinclair & Cook

    • dumboldguy Says:

      Russell is getting frantic.
      He is thrashing
      His head will soon explode.

      Good! Take pictures!

      All that denier yodeling will do that to anyone who believes it!

    • Gingerbaker Says:

      And there is RussellTheLiar lying again about how he gets paid to lie. Yawn.


      • Notice what “d.o.g.” literally fails to dispute once again, and notice how you hurl the same accusation again, once more without making an effort to point out to the crowd a solitary lie I’ve told, much less a dozen or a hundred.

        Surely, friend, you can pick any of my GelbspanFiles posts or any of my prior online articles, and detail at least 6 lies in any one of them. Correct? Give it a shot, save your pals the time of doing your work for you.
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        “Two Thumbs Up for this comment!” — Sinclair & Cook

        • dumboldguy Says:

          Russell, it has been many months since we began to tell you that we here on Crock are all in agreement that you act like a skunk, look like a skunk, and smell like a skunk—–and that’s an apt metaphor for the lying POS denier whore that you are, although rather insulting to skunks. You keep saying “prove it, prove it, prove it” and we keep saying that it’s as obvious to us as “the sky is blue”, “the tides go in and out”, and “s**t stinks”. You’re outnumbered, Russell, and it’s a measure of your lack of intelligence that you keep singing your ONE.NOTE.SONG in the face of all of our dismissiveness.

          I’ll ask you another question—maybe you’ll answer this one? Why do you come on this site and spout your lying horseshit when NOBODY on Crock has EVER agreed with anything you say or done anything but call you a lying POS? Occam’s Razor says that it’s likely because you get paid to do so. (And that Peter is too lenient in his “dump the denier assholes” policy and has allowed you to overstay your welcome).

          You invite us to go to the Gelbspan files? I have been there and will again warn everyone to stay away from that horseshit site. It is dangerous to one’s mental health to go there and try to find any truth. I survived my visits there only because my professional training and experience have armored me against such intellectual cesspools.

          And I will ask for the FIFTH time, Russell. Tell us why you were on the addressee list for Fred Singer’s nefarious emails about Merchant of Doubt.

          GB got it right—–Yawn!!!


          • “… and we keep saying that it’s as obvious to us as “the sky is blue”, “the tides go in and out”, and “s**t stinks” ….”

            Notice what is totally absent in that response and in all your previous ones where I’ve challenged you to dive into your own beloved material from Gore, Gelbspan, Oreskes, Hoggan et al. and show me their physical evidence proving skeptic climate scientists knowingly lie, were instructed on what, where, when & how to lie, and paid to lie under the threat of payments being withdrawn if they told the truth? What’s missing — as obvious to us as “the sky is blue”, etc, etc — is you pointing me and everyone else here straight to that evidence.

            “… Occam’s Razor says that it’s likely because you get paid to do so …” He can say whatever he likes, so can you. Proving the accusation true with actual evidence is a whole other matter, isn’t it?

            Say whatever you like about GelbspanFiles.com, it is a free country. Rather than advise people to stay away from it, why not pick a particular post or three and detail at length what specially are the lies and misinformation there? Wouldn’t that be hugely more effective than begging for people to trust you that it isn’t worth reading?

            I’d think by now it would be beyond obvious why I was on Dr Singer’s addressee list, as obvious to us as “the sky is blue”, in fact: I’ve taken the time to collect verbatim text from Gelbspan, his associates, and repeaters of his accusation (including Oreskes) and can tell any reporter exactly where the inconsistencies are and how the timeline for Gelbspan’s Spring 1995 ‘discovery odyssey’ about corrupt skeptics doesn’t line up right. And not one of you even tries to lift a finger to dispute a word I’ve said at my blog or at my collective other online stories on the matter.

            Christopher Keating was all show and no go over at his latest blog post attack on me, exposed so badly as such that he had to scrub out my final comment there. I added that situation into my own post http://gelbspanfiles.com/?p=2792 . When the AGW side resorts to ‘delete, delete, delete … and silence/kill the messenger’, is that not a good indicator that you collectively aren’t all that sure your base level IPCC science assessments can withstand withering criticism from skeptic climate scientists?

          • dumboldguy Says:

            It’s amazing that Russell is still trying to make something out of the inane 20-YEAR-OLD BS about Gore and Gelbspan that he has built a career around. It’s even more amazing that he thinks anyone with a brain would spend time on his site looking at “PAGE 269”.

            Yes, it’s a free country, Russell, and I will tell the world every chance I get that you are wasting our time. People are likewise “free” to trust either one of us, and I’m confident that NO ONE among the Crockers is on your side.

            Still waiting for you to give us a detailed and exact explanation of why you are on Fred Singer’s addressee list for his nefarious crybaby emails about Merchants of Doubt. You DID offer to tell us your side. Why do you NEVER answer questions that are put to you and constantly evade?

            (And did you see my comment about having seen the M of Doubt movie on Netflix and being highly impressed with it? I can see why you, Fred, and all the other Heartland Stooges are so frightened of it).


    • Problem when science gets in your way Russell. Anecdotes are not science.

      Fructose has a lot in common with alcohol, and is metabolized in a similar fashion through the liver.

      • Lionel Smith Says:

        “…either find the evidence proving skeptic climate scientists know the truth, lie, are paid specifically to lie, and follow specific instructions to lie…”

        And here Russell again comes with his Wendy Wright style call for evidence, Russell having long since painted himself into the corner wearing a conical hat emblazoned with a large ‘D’.

        Now fructose is dangerous stuff and can promote gout, I didn’t realise I was poisoning my system when imbibing high juice cordials – diluted with water. There is a burgeoning gout epidemic in the UK and I am one of the sufferers.

        A search on ‘fructose’ and ‘gout’ will draw many hits.


    • “Friends,”
      I take exception to that insult

  7. Gingerbaker Says:

    ” “This reminds me of what the tobacco companies did back in the day, and more recently what climate change deniers are doing as well…””

    Did the reins not get passed from Roger Ailes to Rupert Murdoch’s two younger sons? We speculated that Fox News might start changing their tune re AGW, and this looks like the start of that.

  8. redskylite Says:

    Have you really seen what you are drinking ?, look at Coke’s sugar in lollipop form, courtesy of a Brooklyn based food photographer . .. Keep it away from me .. My diabetes care nurse will punish me severely if I go near a can or bottle.

    “I have heard health professionals recently refer to soda as the cigarettes of our generation”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11495924


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  10. Reblogged this on Steven S Goddard (aka Tony Heller), Exposed and commented:
    Hat tip to Climate Crock for calling attention to the fact that Obama now has established his mind control program on Fox News. That’s why 97% of deniers prefer The Blaze for their news.


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