Anti-Vax Nutjobs Linked to Climate Denial Nutjobs

February 4, 2015

Sue-prahz, sue-prahz, sue-prahz.

Turns out a shadowy right wing group of physicians is not only behind a whole lot of medical conspiracy theories, but is itself a link between crazy climate denial, and anti-vax conspiracy mania.

Above, one of the group’s most famous public disinformation jobs, the famous Oregon “scientists petition” against climate science.


WASHINGTON — Back in 2009, when Rand Paul was pursuing his long-shot bid to win Kentucky’s Republican Senate primary, he spoke to a small physicians’ association that has publicized discredited medical theories, including possible links between vaccines and autism and between abortion and an increased risk of breast cancer.

At the time, Mr. Paul, an ophthalmologist, was no stranger to the group, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. He boasted at its annual meeting that he had been a member for more than two decades and that he relied on its research, statistics and views about the role of government in medicine.

“I am not a newcomer to AAPS,” Mr. Paul said, referring to the group.

On Monday, Mr. Paul helped set off an uproar when he said amid a national measles outbreak that parents should be allowed to decide whether their children needed to be vaccinated, and that he had heard from parents whose children had suffered “profound mental disorders” after being vaccinated.

In doing so, he was echoing the views of the head of the association, which has also lobbied in recent years for state laws permitting parents to opt out of mandatory inoculation programs based on their beliefs.

Steven Dutch, Universith of Wisconsin-Green Bay:

Back in 1998, I got a mailing that included a very professional looking paper casting doubt on the link between human activities and global warming. Two things about the paper caught my eye. First was its source: it was mailed from the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine in Cave Junction, Oregon. Now it so happens I know where Cave Junction is. It’s a wide spot in the road, so called because there’s a turnoff for Oregon Caves National Monument. Cave Junction is not a major population center, much less the site of a university or major research labs. (Caveman Campers, which obviously take their name from the caves, are located not in Cave Junction but in nearby Grants Pass.)

The paper was called Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide by Arthur B. Robinson, Sallie E. Baliunas, Willie Soon and Zachary W. Robinson. It had a lot of interesting graphs of carbon dioxide and temperature trends, and looked for all the world like a reprint from a journal. Same type fonts, similar paper stock, the works. The problem came when I looked for a citation, because if I were going to use any of this information, I would certainly need to provide a citation. And all scientific reprints have one, either at the beginning, the end, or on the top or bottom margin of each page. This one didn’t. Now if you want to disseminate information, you can simply photocopy your paper and send it out. Even some high-class journals do this. But this one was professionally printed, folded, and stapled on the spine. Someone had gone to a lot of trouble to make this look like a published scientific paper. And that bothered me. I filed the paper away.


So in October, 2007, I got a mailing that was deja vu all over again. This one was from the Petition Project. It had a cover letter by Frederic Seitz, President Emeritus of Rockefeller University and past President of the National Academy of Sciences, asking me to sign a petition urging Congress to reject the Kyoto Accords. There was a petition card, and there was a reprint, this one on glossy paper, in color, and again bearing the address Cave Junction, Oregon. This article, also titled Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide, was by Arthur B. Robinson, Noah E. Robinson and Willie Soon. This one did bear a citation, from Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (2007), vol. 12, pp. 79-90.

Just to close the circle, the first two references cited in the paper were to Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide by Arthur B. Robinson, Sallie E. Baliunas, Willie Soon and Zachary W. Robinson, in Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (1998; then known as the Medical Sentinel, vol. 3, pp. 171-178), and Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide by Willie Soon, Sallie E. Baliunas, Arthur B. Robinson, and Zachary W. Robinson, in Climate Research (1999, vol. 3, p. 149-164). (I’ll say this – they make bibliographic searches easy!) So it’s possible the 1998 paper was a preprint or reprint of the Medical Sentinel paper.

So why publish a paper on climate change in a medical journal? And just what is the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons? A look at the contents from the last few issues is revealing:

  • The Breast Cancer Epidemic: Modeling and Forecasts Based on Abortion and Other Risk Factors
  • Government Price Fixing in Medicine: the Demanding Entitled Patient
  • Is Physician Income Too High, or Too Low? [take a wild guess]
  • Editorial: Conflicts of Interest and Quality Care
  • Induced Abortion and Breast Cancer Risk: A Critical Analysis of the Report of the Harvard Nurses Study II
  • Common Sense, 231 Years Later
  • American Physicians and Meiji-Era Samurais: Is History Repeating Itself?
  • The Coase Theorem: the Greatest Economic Insight of the 20 Century
  • Has The Time for Nonparticipation Come?
  • The Optometric-Ophthalmic Kickback Scheme: the Demise of American Eye Medicine
  • Book Reviews:
    • The Cure: How Capitalism Can Save American Health Care
    • Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder [to be fair, the review is critical of the state of conservative scholarship]
    • The Politically Incorrect Guide to Science [Generally favorable review]
    • Vaccine: The Controversial Story of Medicine’s Greatest Lifesaver
    • The Privatization of Roads and Highways: Human and Economic Factors
    • The Business of Health: the Role of Competition, Markets, and Regulation
    • Envy: a Theory of Social Behavior
    • Pain in America—and How Our Government Makes It Worse!
    • America Alone: the End of the World as We Know It
    • The Professors–The 101 Most Dangerous Academics In America
    • Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years
    • The Trouble With Medical Journals
    • Minutemen – The Battle To Secure America’s Border
    • Overdose: How Excessive Government Regulation Stifles Pharmaceutical Innovation
    • The Great Influenza: The Epic Story of the Deadliest Plague in History
    • The Real Lincoln – A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War
    • One Nation Under Therapy – How the Helping Culture Is Eroding Self-Reliance
    • Life at the Bottom – The Worldview That Makes the Underclass

A scan of the journal’s contents shows very little real science. It may well be that the two papers on climate change are the most scientific papers the journal has ever published. There are a lot of articles critical of medical peer review and government regulation. And there are a host of tangential articles and book reviews favorable to far right and libertarian ideology. I could see a medical journal publishing a review of an extreme book like The Bell Curve that was widely publicized and had a bearing on medicine, but what serious medical journal would ever have a reason to review books on privatization of roads, the Minutemen, the 101 most dangerous academics (I was excluded both from this and People’s list of sexiest men. O the injustice!), or a hostile revisionist work on Lincoln?

NYTimes again:

The AAPS stance on childhood vaccines is not its only controversial one. Its periodical, The Journal of the American Physicians and Surgeons, has published reports suggesting a link between abortions and higher rates of breast cancer, an idea rejected by an expert panel of the National Cancer Institute. Another report contended that illegal immigrants brought disease into this country and benefited if their babies were born with disabilities.

The association’s agenda opposes government intervention in medical practice and argues that patients have the right to choose their treatments, Dr. Caplan said. “They are basically libertarians in white coats,” he said.

No mention of the Oregon Petition would be complete without Petition Godfather Art Robinson’s legendary interview with Rachel Maddow,while he was running for congress in 2010. (he lost that bid, and a subsequent one in 2012)



35 Responses to “Anti-Vax Nutjobs Linked to Climate Denial Nutjobs”

  1. omnologos Says:

    Chemtrailers don’t believe in AGW consensus. That’s because they think governments are changing the climate using chemtrails, not CO2.

    This just to show using silly fringe groups demonstrates nothing.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      “….governments are changing the climate using chemtrails, not CO2.”?

      Does that mean the government WAS trying to change the climate using CO2 at one point but is now using CO2 instead?

      And where in this piece are contrails mentioned anyway?

      Omno lives “just to show that attention seekers using silly references to unrelated things demonstrates nothing”, and he’s actually pretty good at it. Too bad it’s not something that anyone would pay him for. Maybe he’s hoping we will pay him to STOP doing it? Now that’s a business plan!

      • dumboldguy Says:

        Dang, committed an “omnoism” myself. Meant to say (Does that mean they think) “the government WAS trying to change the climate using CO2 at one point but is now using CHEMTRAILS instead?”

        Trying to unravel the confusions in Omno’s pronouncements is a difficult task at best, but that’s no excuse. I apologize for adding to the confusion.

        • omnologos Says:

          No need to apologize, your inane verbiage is expected.

          In the meantime the whole stupidity of guilt by association remains for all to see. Say, Greenpeace rejects the consensus on GMO. Would that be an argument useful to say warmists are in denial of science, because Greenpeace is a warmist organization?

          One can’t just point to fringe groups saying funny things, one has to show how they’re influencing the discourse.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            I give up. Let someone else parse what the Omnoron is saying here and explain it to us.

          • omnologos Says:

            I wonder what you’d say if someone posted this video under a title such as “Liar linked to the environmentalist movement”

          • dumboldguy Says:

            I would say that you continue to prove to all who visit Crock what a moron you are.

          • omnologos Says:

            Yeah right. Your pathetic attempt at not replying. Good night to your long time asleep brain.

          • omnologos Says:

            If this weren’t a yawn of an argument I’d be bothered to find the squeals and cries uttered when Heartland ran those silly ads with the Unabomber.

            “Murderous Antitechnology Nutjobs Linked to Climate Alarmism Nutjobs” indeed. /sarc

          • dumboldguy Says:


          • omnologos Says:

            Yes you are. In the meanwhile do you remember when a Terrorist Nutjob joined the Climate Alarmism Nutjobs?

          • dumboldguy Says:


          • omnologos Says:

            Definitely the best definition for you. Interestingly, “North Korea has a record of compliance with its obligations as a party to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change” – why, Bloody Dictatorship Nutjobs of course like to join the camp of Climate Alarmism Nutjobs

          • dumboldguy Says:

            And yet again it is necessary to say…….MORON! Your attention seeking and ability to go off into irrelevant corners and scoff up the horseshit you find there is amazing.

            Congrats, you have crapped up yet another Crock thread (but I guess my occupying you here serves a purpose—-at least you’re not crapping up other threads where folks are trying to have intelligent conversations).

            I will tell the old joke to try to break it to you gently:

            “All those with fully functioning brains take one step forward”
            “Not you, Omno”

          • omnologos Says:

            You’re dramatically insane. My posts are on topic. I’m showing that Peter’s attempt to smear climate skepticism by way of unsavoury characters, is meaningless. You OTOH have contributed zero to the discussion. As a bonus, here the vaccination rates map as published on Mother Jones. I surmise it correlates not with any map of climate skepticism.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            You’re dramatically and emphatically deluded. Chemtrails, Bin Laden, North Korea, Unabombers, and now “vaccine maps” are far outside Peter’s message, which was about the AAPS and “linkages” between their activities re: vaccines and climate change.

            You characterize this post as an “attempt to smear climate skepticism by way of unsavoury characters”. The only “smearing” that takes place on Crock is the smearing of truth and common sense that you and the other mindless DENIERS subject us to (you are NOT “skeptics”, and your game is not “skepticism” but ignorant and dishonest denial—there’s a huge difference).

            BTW, I just took a look at your blog and understand why you spend so much time seeking attention on Crock. You and “omnology” appear to have shot your wad. Doesn’t look like anyone is paying you much attention. We wouldn’t either, except that Peter keeps you around for entertainment purposes. Please do something sufficiently outrageous and unacceptable that Peter bans you.

          • omnologos Says:

            You’re the only brainless idiot here, paying attention to someone by saying that nobody pays attention to him

          • dumboldguy Says:

            And you prove my point that you’re a moron by lapping up the “attention” (beating, actually) and begging for more. If you had half a brain, you’d understand that you’re not “winning” here and just give it up.

            Would you like me to post some quotes from your site? I’m sure everyone would be highly entertained by the “testimonials” there, far more so than by this string of stupid and impotent “comebacks”.

          • omnologos Says:

            Sure sure. Good boy good you.

          • dumboldguy Says:


          • omnologos Says:

            Sure sure. Good boy good you.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Some testimonials to Omno on his blog:

            “….you have one of the finest minds I have ever encountered, don’t let it go to waste. Ever….”

            “….Maurizio’s prose justifiably stands out….always a refreshing read….”

            “….One of the cleverest people, complete with a touch of madness. Where would (we) be without Maurizio’s genius and madness?….”

            “….Maurizio isn’t afraid to say what he thinks, and it’s clear that he thinks before he says it…..”

            “…..Maurizio is literally a man of quality words….definitely one that pays deep attention to detail….”

            And last but not least, and proving decisively that Omno is not the only deluded moron on the planet (although those who wrote the preceding show signs of serious confusion):

            “…..I had a look at your blog and agree with ALL of it by the way. Hope a few more people read it and get the message”.

            (emphasis added)

          • omnologos Says:

            You’re a total troll

          • dumboldguy Says:

            I’M a total troll? You’re a total moron. Reread your testimonials, but insert the 7 or 8 “NOT”s that will make them true statements. Such is the result of unbridled narcissism and cluelessness—–self-inflicted embarrassment.

            PS I’d be willing to bet that many of those testimonials were actually from folks who were mocking Maurizio, and that they are still laughing at the fact that he took them seriously and posted them on his site.

          • dumboldguy Says:

            Agreed. I’m done. At least feeding him here did serve to keep him him crapping up the discussion on other threads.

  2. dumboldguy Says:

    One of your better videos.

    “….clear the smoke and…..never, never inhale!” LOL

    I wonder if Russell Crook will wander by to punch his Heartland time card and comment on any connections between Seitz’s thoughts on taking money vs. Willie Soon’s on same, Soon’s being an author of the “paper” the petition project used, and the other various connections we see, all falling under the heading of paid shills whoring for the fossil fuels interests (after warming up on tobacco).

    • dumboldguy Says:

      PS Forgot to say that the Maddow “interview” with Robinson IS truly “legendary”. Thanks for showing it again.

      Rachel is good at what she does, but in Robinson’s case she didn’t have to work too hard—-he showed the world what a fool and charlatan he is with little prompting. The sad thing is that he and his acolytes probably said afterwards “We sure told that **** a thing or two” and strutted around the barnyard crowing about their “victory”.

  3. Gingerbaker Says:

    There people would make Joseph Goebbels proud. This is, pure and simple, propaganda. Propaganda whose self-professed interest is in changing government policy from the rational to the irrational. This is propaganda that has real consequences, measured in the value of property and in the lives of millions of people and billions of animals.

    As I have said before, Joseph Goebbels was to be tried for crimes against humanity. Not because he murdered people with a gun – he didn’t. He murdered people with propaganda. Try as I might, I can see no difference between the promulgators of this filth, people like the Koch brothers, Rush Limbaugh, Anthony Watts, and Joseph Goebbels.

    Maybe someone here can disabuse me of my opinion, because I don’t see why these people are not prosecuted.

    • dumboldguy Says:

      You won’t get an arguments from me. Once they were afforded due process and duly convicted, I would volunteer to help “complete the process” (especially with Rush)

  4. Bob Doublin Says:

    Has anyone checked out the claim that ” if vaccines are so safe,why do most physicians NOT vaccinate their own children?” I saw this just today on fb,I’m highly skeptical of it of course,but have no idea how to check it out. And frankly,the only reason why I look at it is because it is highly contentious among my friends and I need to be informed. But to be honest,the whole subject is as interesting to me as a root canal. I have a whole long list of other concerns just as important. Can’t do everything.. Thanks. I really appreciate any info.

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