You would have enjoyed http://seven50.org/ conference last month where the climate analysts of south Florida met the developers and tried to get them to think past 50 years.
I attended but did not speak. I was appalled that the most sea level rise they would consider in planning was 2 feet by 2060 and then nothing after 2060. They would not agree that 2 feet by 2060 might mean 4 or 5 feet by 2100.
So they are planning to increase the population of South Florida by 3 million by that time, and they are planning all sorts of new investments to make as much money as possible from the region.
I can only assume that they secretly want to maximize profit before the inevitable drowning takes place.
They would talk about mitigation (but not decarbonization) and adaptation, but not a word about evacuation. Florida Power and Light (FPL) was in the room and among other things talked about how they are going to expand their nuclear facilities at Turkey Point.
Expanding the nuclear plant at Turkey Point is a positive response to climate change. We need more electricity to decarbonize, which is only worth doing if that electricity is not itself carbon-dioxide-generating.
And Turkey Point has been directly hit by a huge hurricane without safety problems. Talk about safe! Proven convincingly.
BTW, what Fukushima demonstrated is that even when the most extreme and heretofore unimaginable natural disaster hits several nuclear power stations, there was not a single death associated with nuclear radiation. That’s how safe they are.
Had the same disaster occurred with coal, gas, hydro, photovoltaic or wind power generation, there would almost certainly have been deaths directly related to those mediums of power generation.
Yes, you’re absolutely right, dube, those wind slicks and leaks of you, know, sunbeams can be really serious.
Are you serious, dude? Nuclear reactors are not an option for a world of deteriorating climate and collapsing economies–on its huge water use alone, let alone all the other unsolvable problem. Fossil fuels cause millions of deaths a year including vast numbers of wildlife of all kinds, and are creating a global ecological catastrophe unparalleled in human history. Wind and solar, on the other hand, are harmless forms of energy that have the power to save civilization. To be against them is to be against science, rational thought, and a stable civilization.
“The uploader has not made this video available in your country”
So wish I could see this. Please could a friendly soul mirror the vid and make it available in the UK? Actually I’m not even sure if that is possible. And certainly don’t do it if it breaks copyright laws – but if it can be done, I’d be most grateful.
Thanks for the viewable version. I’m subscribed to their feed and somehow missed this one. I try to watch everything with Carla Santa Maria in it as well.
July 3, 2013 at 3:14 pm
unavailable in the UK
from the one visible image, looks like xxi century televangelism ๐
July 3, 2013 at 3:33 pm
You would have enjoyed http://seven50.org/ conference last month where the climate analysts of south Florida met the developers and tried to get them to think past 50 years.
I attended but did not speak. I was appalled that the most sea level rise they would consider in planning was 2 feet by 2060 and then nothing after 2060. They would not agree that 2 feet by 2060 might mean 4 or 5 feet by 2100.
So they are planning to increase the population of South Florida by 3 million by that time, and they are planning all sorts of new investments to make as much money as possible from the region.
I can only assume that they secretly want to maximize profit before the inevitable drowning takes place.
They would talk about mitigation (but not decarbonization) and adaptation, but not a word about evacuation. Florida Power and Light (FPL) was in the room and among other things talked about how they are going to expand their nuclear facilities at Turkey Point.
Talk about Risk! Can you spell Fukushima?
July 3, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Here is a photo of the Turkey Point Nuclear facility. Even more vulnerable than Fukushima. http://enformable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Turkey-Point-Nuclear-Power-Plant.jpg
July 3, 2013 at 8:44 pm
Don’t attribute to evil what can be explained by stupidity.
July 3, 2013 at 10:30 pm
Expanding the nuclear plant at Turkey Point is a positive response to climate change. We need more electricity to decarbonize, which is only worth doing if that electricity is not itself carbon-dioxide-generating.
And Turkey Point has been directly hit by a huge hurricane without safety problems. Talk about safe! Proven convincingly.
July 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Only a little too bombastic? Apart from the fact that he’s right on pretty much everything, I can’t stand the guy ๐
July 3, 2013 at 4:34 pm
Fun fact: Cenk Uygurโs sonโs name is Prometheus Maximus Uygur.
July 3, 2013 at 10:48 pm
Fortunately for her, his daughter is Joy Helena Uygur. Dare I suspect his wife drew a line?
July 4, 2013 at 5:39 am
My wife drew the line the first time when I wanted to name our son Reno. You are probably right.
July 3, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Yes, we are all going to see who lied.
BTW, what Fukushima demonstrated is that even when the most extreme and heretofore unimaginable natural disaster hits several nuclear power stations, there was not a single death associated with nuclear radiation. That’s how safe they are.
Had the same disaster occurred with coal, gas, hydro, photovoltaic or wind power generation, there would almost certainly have been deaths directly related to those mediums of power generation.
July 11, 2013 at 5:45 am
Yes, you’re absolutely right, dube, those wind slicks and leaks of you, know, sunbeams can be really serious.
Are you serious, dude? Nuclear reactors are not an option for a world of deteriorating climate and collapsing economies–on its huge water use alone, let alone all the other unsolvable problem. Fossil fuels cause millions of deaths a year including vast numbers of wildlife of all kinds, and are creating a global ecological catastrophe unparalleled in human history. Wind and solar, on the other hand, are harmless forms of energy that have the power to save civilization. To be against them is to be against science, rational thought, and a stable civilization.
July 3, 2013 at 7:00 pm
“The uploader has not made this video available in your country”
So wish I could see this. Please could a friendly soul mirror the vid and make it available in the UK? Actually I’m not even sure if that is possible. And certainly don’t do it if it breaks copyright laws – but if it can be done, I’d be most grateful.
July 4, 2013 at 3:55 am
I’ll have a go. I’ll post the link.
July 4, 2013 at 4:19 am
For those who can’t access it, try my mirror.
July 4, 2013 at 5:24 am
uknowipeaksense – works perfectly and is well worth watching. Twice ๐
Thank you!
July 8, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Thanks for the viewable version. I’m subscribed to their feed and somehow missed this one. I try to watch everything with Carla Santa Maria in it as well.