Want to see the Future? Watch Germany…

December 11, 2012

..or, Texas. I’m at the Texas Renewable Energy Association conference in Austin – coming right off the AGU. Probably a little overconfident in my ability to withstand jet lag.

Will start to catch up with postings soon.


13 Responses to “Want to see the Future? Watch Germany…”

  1. Frank Zaski Says:

    Peter, you bum! I’m jealous. frank

  2. rayduray Says:

    Want to see the future? Watch America eat its young: http://tinyurl.com/bjj55jf

    This macabre dance of financial ruin is not going to end well.

    • andrewfez Says:

      Ha, ha, ha, ha! Doesn’t that fella realize corporations don’t want exceptionally clever workers that question everything around them, point out ‘upper level’ flaws, and disrupt the status quo?

      • rayduray Says:

        Yes, sadly, “master of the universe” positions are going to be in short supply for the sons of masters of the universe. I recommend that a course of serial patricide among the 1% be taken up immediately.

        Either that, or the Revolution:


        “We want our Rights, and we don’t care how. We want our Revolution now!”

  3. MorinMoss Says:

    So if the Republicans think that AGW is a hoax and green energy is a waste of money, then Texas must have a lot of Democrats & Independents who’re putting up a lot of turbines.

  4. I am an “big advocate” of “green energy”, but … “the image” must be complete – not just “success propaganda” …

    “In April, GlobalPost explored the e conomic impact of renewable energy in Europe . Julian Scola, communications director of the European Wind Energy Association, told GlobalPost, “Things are difficult. It’s a bumpy ride for some companies because of changes in the support mechanisms, the level of competition.”

    “… the changes needed to accommodate large amounts of variable renewable energy on the grid, in particular thousands of kilometers of new power lines and the ramping up of energy storage, are not happening quickly enough.”

    “However, another concern is the rising cost of the Fits scheme that has driven Germany’s huge renewable roll out: it now costs bill payers €14bn a year. An official at the economic ministry, which uneasily shares responsibility with environment for energy policy, warns that a tipping point will come when CONSUMERS WILL REFUSE to pay more for new renewables.”

    http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-10-29/german-official-renewable-energy-beats-forecasts :
    “ He cautioned, however, that his Federal Network Agency’s assessment shows that more and swifter investment is needed to upgrade the electricity grid to cope with the influx of UNSTABLE and geographically DISPERSED renewable energies.”

    “…it derives most of its wind power from the country’s north, but demand is highest in the strongly industrialized south.”

    “To cope with that challenge, the agency estimates that Germany needs to build another 5,000 kilometers (3,100 miles) of high voltage lines — at an estimated cost of some €20 billion ($26 billion).”

    “… Kohler stressed that GERMANY NEEDS TO BUILD MORE CONVENTIONAL POWER PLANTS — for example, gas-fired plants …”

    “German commentators say that the current CHAOS endangers the entire project.”

    “Indeed, Environment Minister Peter Altmaier now finds himself in the awkward position of having to put the brakes on the country’s energy revolution.”

    “At issue is the German Renewable Energy Act, which requires power companies to buy wind and solar energy from producers at fixed prices, which are much higher than electricity produced by traditional methods such as coal- and natural gas-fired power plants. At the same time, power-hungry industries receive generous subsidies — the country’s largest industrial consumers use some 18 percent of the electricity produced but pay only 0.3 percent of the extra costs generated by the mandated feed-in tariffs. German consumers have to COUGH UP the difference.”

    “ … – particularly the offshore windparks being built in the Baltic Sea and the North Sea off the country’s north coast. Many of those projects are at A STANDSTILL, WITH NO WAY TO DELIVER THE POWER …” “…but again it will be German consumers who will ultimately suffer.”
    “… the Renewable Energy Act so AS TO PUT THE BRAKES [!] ON THE CURRENT RUSH TOWARD RENEWABLES.” (…)
    (I invite to reading all).

    This is not “cherry picking”, even leftist the German newspaper, also this writes.

    Germany, Europe’s biggest economy, relatively richest economy in the world: Germany can afford to CHAOS – extremely expensive, unguided, the introduction of renewable energy, but I think only the Germans.

    Partially because of this the European Initiative was created in Germany – civic protest against the EU climate package.

    Renewable energy much better and more wisely (fact: slower) is introduced for example in Australia (and even in the U.S.!) – results in the future there will be a better, less expensive, and more importantly: more stable; than in Germany (where example, bankruptcy of biogas plant – is a fact).

    “God save America” (and mine – “the poor” – country) before the German ideas …

  5. Maybe more explain (supplement) to the first citation:


    “… Germany’s Q-Cells, at one time the world’s largest producer of photovoltaic cells for solar panels, was filing for insolvency is the latest in a series of high-profile collapses in Europe’s once-bright solar power industry.”

    “Too many European companies, he acknowledged, have been slow to adapt to a rapidly changing market and relied for too long on government subsidies. “This WAS NEVER REALISTIC and now it’s time to realize that those days are over,”…”

    “The German parliament APPROVED SUBSIDY CUTS to the solar industry of up to 29 percent …”

  6. rayduray Says:

    Alternative media source Truth-Out has an article up about the German energy transformation (Energiewende):


    Blurb: “Americans’ greatest challenge in energy generation is appreciating what is possible because too many of us don’t know what is already happening in other parts of the world – for example, the powerful story of Europe’s energy transformation.”

    • rayduray Says:

      I see a world in perfect harmony. Politicians create carbon trading schemes, and bankers create carbon trading scams. What could be more wonderful?

    • MorinMoss Says:

      Never been a fan of carbon-trading as it’s always seemed susceptible to scams.
      But it looks like the UK & EU do actually bring the hammer down on financial scammers – a lesson for the US.

      Oh, wait a sec, it was all Bernie Madoff’s fault.

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