Heartland’s Truth-Challenged Harrison Schmitt Trolls NASA Nursing Home for New “List of Scientists”

April 11, 2012

I won’t bother to link to it here, but you may be hearing on the inter-tubes about a “list of NASA Scientists”  who deny global warming.

When you want to present something as “scientific” that strays far beyond the boundaries of the mainstream,  you have to take your “scientists” where you can get them. In the past, we’ve seen climate deniers present petition lists of orthodontists,  podiatrists, and veterinarians as “proof'” of a controversy about climate change.

Now,  Harrison Schmitt, ex-astronaut, and a board member at the Oil and Tobacco shilling Heartland Institute, whose own shaky scientific integrity is documented in the video above, has apparently trolled the ranks of retired right wing NASA engineers (don’t see any climate specialists on this list) for yet another anti-factual denialosphere non-news story. Schmidt was famously rejected for a post heading the New Mexico Department of Energy, Minerals, and Natural Resources after accounts of his scientific distortions surfaced. He is also noted for appearing on the Moon-bat Conspiracy theory Alex Jones show to discuss his theory that the “environmental movement has been taken over by communists”.

Presumably, Schmitt and Heartland will be following up with a list of Doctors who prefer Camels.

26 Responses to “Heartland’s Truth-Challenged Harrison Schmitt Trolls NASA Nursing Home for New “List of Scientists””

  1. omnologos Says:

    You should at least trouble yourself with reading what you try to comment on. Rather than ‘deny global warming’ those guys have written against the hysteria surrounding climate change. I hope we all agree nothing should be done based on hysteria.

    As for ageism it is funny to read it practised by those who are ready to condemn statements against women for example. Perhaps there is a nastiness quota in most of us, and you display it by making uncivil remarks about other people’s age. Whatever. Nothing you should be proud of, anyway.

    • ddbooger Says:

      Writing about it doesn’t lend the credence or authority on the matter. How is this ageism? If you do not keep up with the current production of knowledge, no matter your age, you are ill prepared to offer any advice.

    • greenman3610 Says:

      When you need a goofy opinion on science, right wing geezers are usually a good place to go find em. Preferably if its on a topic out of their area of experience.
      This has been a reliable well for the anti science movement historically.
      The phrase “gone emeritus” is rooted in real experience. Linus Pauling was a brilliant scientist who won 2 nobels, but I’m sorry, Vitamin C does not cure colds.

    • dana1981 Says:

      Take your own advice and read the letter, omnologos. It accuses NASA GISS – one of the world’s foremost climate science institutions – of writing about ‘catastrophic’ climate change in its press releases and websites. The letter of course gives no examples of this supposed behavior. All of the NASA GISS websites and press releases I’ve seen simply discuss the scientific research they’re doing.

      The letter is all rhetoric and no substance. And by my count, 23 of the signatories are former administrators, not even engineers.

      • omnologos Says:

        dana…really…did you read the letter of just a summary? They say: “We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated“. I presume they are still free to believe what they want to believe, and to say it publicly. Are they not?

        They also write: “We request that NASA refrain from including unproven and unsupported remarks in its future releases and websites on this subject“. Again I presume they are still free to request that. Are they not?

        As for NASA making claims about man-made CO2 and catastrophes, there is links aplenty at nasa.gov. For example.

        • dana1981 Says:

          You just demonstrated that I read the letter, since your quotes say what I said the letter says. Thank you for proving my point.

          They are free to believe and request whatever they want. They can request that James Hansen be brought in front of a firing squad if they’d like. Just as we are free to criticize them for their idiotic beliefs and requests (i.e. asking that NASA GISS be censored).

    • ahaveland Says:

      If you can keep your head while everyone else is losing theirs,
      then perhaps you don’t understand the situation!

      But seriously, I wouldn’t characterize wanting to use the brakes on a foggy road as hysteria.
      Humanity is simply driving too fast for the conditions ahead, and should be more cautious.

    • otter17 Says:

      Hysteria surrounding climate change, eh? Honestly, climate change activists want steps that follow recommendations from the USA National Academy of Sciences and similar academies throughout the world.

      “The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action. It is vital that all nations identify cost effective steps that they can take now, to contribute to substantial and long-term reduction in net global greenhouse gas emissions.”

      Click to access 06072005.pdf

      Are the national academies from Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Russia, UK, and the United States all hysterical in your view?

  2. Peter Mizla Says:

    Denier ‘Trolls’ can continue to ramp up support from former NASA or whatever ‘geezer administrators’ till all hell freezes over- but in the end our rapidly changing climate is even beginning to have the MSM no longer present ‘opposing views’- the evidence is becoming too overwelming. Schmidt in time, if not already has shown he has no credibility.

    • bobchewie Says:

      I guess when you are being paid by industries who fear their profits may suffer from any legislation they trot out any crazyhead,,i just wonder if they in league with theses evangelical christian types spouting nonsense like ‘science doesnt prove anything’ and ‘global warming is nothing’…

  3. with all due respect to Schmidt, who is a hero as so many other of these Apollo-era NASA personnel are, I’ve been working for Elon Musk for the last few years (now working on my own stuff), but the entire space biz has moved on, and the discussion on global warming has as well. People like Musk know it is real and that the solutions are in hand and imperative to implement. Check out minute 25:30 of this ‘The Daily Show’ episode, where Musk admits as much. That’s the future talking. If you want to listen to the past, you can listen to Schmidt.

  4. So the guys who helped NASA pull off the Moon-landing hoax are now accusing NASA climate-scientists of perpetrating a global-warming hoax?

  5. neilrieck Says:

    Schmitt must have taken a example out Joe McCarthy’s book: when you don’t have a relavent point to make, just call your opponent a communist.


    But on a less serious note, I heard some cool jokes yesterday on NPR’s weekly program “Sciece Friday”. Here are the top three:

    A climate scientist and a climate change denier walk into a bar. The scientist surveys the room and says to the bartender, I’ll have what 98 percent everybody here is having. The bartender turns to the denier and says, how about you? The denier replies, I’ll wait to see what the other two percent think.

    A climate scientist and a climate change denier walk into a bar. The denier says, bartender, show me your strongest whiskey. The bartender says, this one here. It’s 95 percent alcohol. The denier slams down his fist and leaves the bar in a hurry. The scientist says, you know, that’s the problem with these guys. You show them the proof, and they still don’t buy it.

    A climate scientist and a climate change denier walk into a bar. The denier orders a beer. The bartender says, bottle? Denier says, no, draft. I have an incisor that gets in a way. And the climatologist says, that’s an inconvenient tooth.

    • omnologos Says:

      thank you Bob for linking to some good examples of hysteria.

      As for the “you’re being paid” accusations, I know where they lead. I’ll say I am not paid at all, and you will try to be witty by saying “oh, so you do it for free?” or something even more idiotic.

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